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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:55 pm to
I kegged up my first Saison yesterday, it finished right at 1.006 (and I promptly broke yet another hydrometer after testing), and tasted pretty good. I have a pretty good variety in my keezer right now, I have a Breakfast Stout, Saison, and an IPA. Trying to plan my next brew and am having a hard time deciding what I want to do. I'd like to do a fruity beer so I may do a simple wheat and add some fruit to it while fermenting. Any recipes or recommendations would be appreciated.
Posted by HungryFisherman
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

I may do a simple wheat and add some fruit to it while fermenting. Any recipes or recommendations would be appreciated.


I'll be monitoring this request also We kicking the fruit wheat beer idea around as well.

Eta: also had an idea to try and clone Canebrake. Found an old thread from here about it. Anyone ever try to clone canebrake?
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:05 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:12 pm to
BMoney made a peach wheat that was great. I have a plum wheat in the secondary on plums now that I will keg after Memorial Day

About 45% 2-row & 45% white wheat malt. Mashed low so it would be dry so the fruit would come through. 10% acid malt for slight tartness. The base before adding plums was great.

I've also used blueberries in a wheat, and blackberries work well too

whatever you use, smash it up
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted by HungryFisherman
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:15 pm to
Could I steep acid malt as a partial mash to achieve some slight wheat tartness in a wheat beer?

ETA: Frozen then smash is what I read. Do you add to primary, secondary, or to keg?
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:20 pm to
For extract I think I would get a couple pounds of wheat malt, steep it for about 30 minutes, then add the acid malt to steep another 15 minutes or so.

If you steep them together you might not extract all the sugars from the wheat as you normally would due to the low ph

You can also use lactic acid to add tartness. Add it when you rack to a bottling bucket or keg

I add the fruit to a secondary. it will ferment the sugars out, but you don't want it during primary fermentation because you'll lose the aromatics.

I fermented 6 days, down to 1.007, then racked it onto the plum purée, gave a few gentle stirs, and closed it up
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:24 pm to
A peach wheat does sound pretty good, but so does a plum wheat, or A blackberry wheat, dang it, too many choices
That grain bill sounds pretty solid too, thanks. How much Lactic would be a good starting point if I went that route? Never used Lactic to affect taste before, just to adjust mash pH.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:28 pm to
The cool thing about such a simple grain bill is that you can add nearly anything from fruit to herbs to hops

I plan to add some myself even after using the acid malt. I will start with an ounce in the keg, and if that's not enough, add another. Probably won't go over two.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:53 pm to
Very pleased with this sour dark mild, great oak and tartness

Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:35 pm to
Anyone have experience using flavor extracts instead of actual fruit? Something like this:
Fruit Extract
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 6:05 am to
Only to supplement if the desired amount of flavor wasn't achieved with real fruit, or in my case, pecans
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:21 am to
So the extract wouldn't be a good alternative to fruit, just a possible supplement?
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:22 am to
I've always felt extract tasted fake. But I know that some commercial beers use it and it comes out fine for them.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:12 pm to
I think the beer lines on my kegerator are too long, but I havent found anything to help me calculate them conclusively so I am afraid to cut them
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:16 pm to
Beer Line Calculator

That should get you close, unless you're using some of that low resistance tubing.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:21 pm to
I'm using Accuflex Bev-Seal Ultra, 22' per line. It's kind of a PITA with that much tubing but never has off flavors and I can switch beer styles without worrying about cross flavoring (is that a thing?)
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:41 pm to
that says they are too short, not too long

Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:41 pm to
We'll, you're f'ed then, sorry
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:02 am to
So in an effort to having my hops prolonged, i believe my next IPA, i will dry hop into the primary fermenter. Is there an obvious loss to utilization? The benefits to dry hopping in a secondary is that all of your beer comes in contact with your hops. The only drawback, is the exposure to oxygen. Not worried about the brew being oxygenated, just want my IPA's to last longer. It's either that or i start drinking more.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:09 am to
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Is there an obvious loss to utilization?


No.


You could always go the semi-pro route and have a conical fermenter and drop the yeast out of the bottom and bubble up CO2 through your dry hops.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 8:11 am
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:14 am to
quote:

The benefits to dry hopping in a secondary is that all of your beer comes in contact with your hops


Unless you are transferring through the hops, this has never been accurate for me. If I put the hops in an empty carboy then transfer beer into that carboy, the hops end up floating on top. Only coming in contact with maybe the first gallon. Do you get yours to stay at the bottom of the carboy?


Side note, we had our first exbeeriment last night at the club meeting. A brewer brewed a single hop IPA then split the batch to dry hop differently, more specifically for a different duration. He hop'd one for 3 days and the other for 10. In the group of 22 tasters, only 9 could identify the difference in a triangle test. 9 is just barely over the random threshold of 7, so we deemed that there was no perceptible difference between 3 days and 10 days of dry hopping. Cool times.
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