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German foods represented in Louisiana staples
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 8/19/12 at 4:48 pm
I have thought about this for some time now, especially since trying to find English foods to use for this thing, but does it seem like with all this state's many cultural influences in food, the very first permanent settler of Louisiana, the Germans, get very little credit when it comes to certain foods here and also very little in the line of German restaurants to pick from?
I realize Besh has covered it pretty well in "My New Orleans" and been a big promoter of it in some of his food, but it still seems pretty weak considering many still view our andouille as a French variant when it's more closely attributed to the Germans. Chicken Fricassee is also a German influence if I'm not mistaken, but since Germany and France border each other I'd imagine there's a lot of bleed over, especially in and around Alsace Lorraine where many if not most Germans came here from.
I just wish there was more covered here. I would love to be able to get some serious German food, especially during the cooler months, what little we do have of that. So far, I've been able to pull of some German dishes from a close friend who's mother is from Germany and he lived there, some pretty fun food like the infamous Sauerbraten, rouladen, potato pancakes, wonderful purple cabbage, and spaetzle, and some other Lithuanian dishes with dobe (sp?)
What's your experience with German foods and are there any restaurants here in Louisiana that focus on it and are a can't miss? Besides hot dogs and frickin sauerkraut, what other German influences in food in Louisiana am I missing?
I realize Besh has covered it pretty well in "My New Orleans" and been a big promoter of it in some of his food, but it still seems pretty weak considering many still view our andouille as a French variant when it's more closely attributed to the Germans. Chicken Fricassee is also a German influence if I'm not mistaken, but since Germany and France border each other I'd imagine there's a lot of bleed over, especially in and around Alsace Lorraine where many if not most Germans came here from.
I just wish there was more covered here. I would love to be able to get some serious German food, especially during the cooler months, what little we do have of that. So far, I've been able to pull of some German dishes from a close friend who's mother is from Germany and he lived there, some pretty fun food like the infamous Sauerbraten, rouladen, potato pancakes, wonderful purple cabbage, and spaetzle, and some other Lithuanian dishes with dobe (sp?)
What's your experience with German foods and are there any restaurants here in Louisiana that focus on it and are a can't miss? Besides hot dogs and frickin sauerkraut, what other German influences in food in Louisiana am I missing?
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:03 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Sauerbraten, rouladen, potato pancakes, wonderful purple cabbage, and spaetzle
Louisiana doesn't merely have a void in German cuisine, it's a full blown vacuum. The only thing off the top of my head that would come close to anything German is blood sausage, with andouille being similar to other german wurst.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:04 pm to Mike da Tigah
BTW... John Folse is actually John Foltz. Family was among the first permanent settlers of this state from Germany.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:06 pm to Degas
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The only thing off the top of my head that would come close to anything German is blood sausage, with andouille being similar to other german wurst.
True. I had forgotten about blood sausage
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:08 pm to Mike da Tigah
Most pork, ground then stuffed into a casing and then smoked like tasso comes from German food
Potato pancakes, or hashbrowns, and this would be a good start..
Potato pancakes, or hashbrowns, and this would be a good start..
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:09 pm to Degas
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So he's a poser?
Nah, probably like most, they've mixed up so much along the way it's a moot point. Funny thing, my family's tract of land was only a few miles down the road from his family's. They are so French now it's absurd when you read the last names in our tree.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:12 pm to Mike da Tigah
I completely forgot about head cheese, which the German's call Sülze. That is a direct influence in LA.Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:15 pm to Degas
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I completely forgot about head cheese, which the German's call Sülze. That is a direct influence in LA.
There you go. You're on a roll Degas. I was just skimming through a German cookbook and they had a listing for calf's head. I should have thought of that.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:20 pm to Mike da Tigah
I've meine Großmutter's kitchen smells indelibly stamped into my memory.
PROSIT!
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:23 pm to Mike da Tigah
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my family's tract of land was only a few miles down the road from his family's
We may be related down the line.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:27 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Nah, probably like most, they've mixed up so much along the way it's a moot point. Funny thing, my family's tract of land was only a few miles down the road from his family's. They are so French now it's absurd when you read the last names in our tree.
My family is also from what is called the German Coast. Most of the settlers of this area were from the Alsace region. If you look at a map of this area of France, it's easy to see how they might mix up their heritage, French or German, on purpose based on who took claim to this region, to save their own skin.
My Maternal Grandparents surnames were Webre and Waguespack, very German sounding, but their native tongue was French.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:27 pm to Bengalbadguy
I was told growing up that many of the German immigrants to LA were close to France anyway. They were really only German by name. Many spoke French and had French customs. When they got here they just infused whatever German/French customs they had into the South Louisiana pot.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:28 pm to Bengalbadguy
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We may be related down the line.
This is entirely possible.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:31 pm to ruzil
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it's easy to see how they might mix up their heritage
True dat. If you travel across Switzerland for instance, the road signs will be in the language of the nearest abutting country (Germany, Italy, France). Lots of heritage is shared.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:34 pm to ruzil
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My Maternal Grandparents surnames were Webre and Waguespack, very German sounding, but their native tongue was French.
Same here. Wicknaire becam Vicnair, as did Troxler become Trosclair, and so on. Oubre is also very German. My grandfather owned a grocery store on the river road and when I was a kid, the customers all had nicknames and would come in to speak French with him and give their list to him. I grew up thinking this is what everyone did.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:36 pm to Mike da Tigah
Lots of German restaurants in Texas as there were a lot of Germans who came as settlers. And even though my Mawmaw was a German cajun fron lake Chuck, I don't know much about german food.
Bavarian Grill (plano) Menu
Walburg Menu in Walburg, Tx
Bavarian Grill (plano) Menu
Walburg Menu in Walburg, Tx
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:40 pm to Zappas Stache
Cajun cooking, explains Link, is "highly seasoned country food using local ingredients from farming, hunting, and fishing." And while the region's French roots are well-known—Acadiana was settled by French Canadian exiles in the late 18th century—Germans, including Link's own ancestors, were also important players in shaping Cajun cuisine. Nicholas Zaunbrecher, Link's great-great-grandfather, played a key role in the early days of Louisiana's commercial rice farming industry. German immigrants also introduced sausage making to the area—which Link says is probably their greatest contribution to Cajun food.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 5:42 pm to Mike da Tigah
Friday night, I enjoyed a wonderful plate of jagersnitzel with spaetzle and gravy at Jagehaus on Conti in the FQ. Very good! Warning. No liquor license yet. As you can't eat Bavarian food without beer, they suggested the bar next door and let me bring it in.
I want more German fare near BR. I miss the Black Forest.
I want more German fare near BR. I miss the Black Forest.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 6:03 pm to Btrtigerfan
Yeah, I've heard people complain about how difficult it is to get a liquore license in NOLA, comparing it to getting made in the mafia.
No matter. I'm hitting this place for sure.
No matter. I'm hitting this place for sure.
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