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re: Coffee Thread
Posted on 2/29/24 at 5:57 pm to BigPerm30
Posted on 2/29/24 at 5:57 pm to BigPerm30
Alright fellas, need some advice. My Gaggia Evo machine is part of "boilergate" (Teflon coating flaking off). They are offering new boilers but frick that; not trusting that shite. I'm sending it back, full refund, but I need another machine.
Seeing y'all talk about the Legato has me intrigued. I know it's been around Asia but still relatively new. The price point is pretty hard to beat. I know it doesn't have an OPV but I'll install one. Just seeing if y'all would purchase again? I'm thinking that or the Profitec Go. German/Italian built with a great history
Seeing y'all talk about the Legato has me intrigued. I know it's been around Asia but still relatively new. The price point is pretty hard to beat. I know it doesn't have an OPV but I'll install one. Just seeing if y'all would purchase again? I'm thinking that or the Profitec Go. German/Italian built with a great history
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 6:48 pm to Girth Donor
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Seeing y'all talk about the Legato has me intrigued. I know it's been around Asia but still relatively new. The price point is pretty hard to beat. I know it doesn't have an OPV but I'll install one. Just seeing if y'all would purchase again? I'm thinking that or the Profitec Go. German/Italian built with a great history
I like it but I’d probably buy a Bianca instead. I’m an a-hole though. Maybe that’ll be my next step.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:41 am to BigPerm30
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I like it but I’d probably buy a Bianca instead. I’m an a-hole though. Maybe that’ll be my next step.
Trading up is a natural feature of every obsession.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:15 am to Girth Donor
Between the Legato and the Profitec: if budget isn’t a concern, I’d go Profitec. The one advantage of the Legato is using a thermoblock for steaming which eliminates single boiler temp surfing. Though if you’re used to a Gaggia, that may not be a deal breaker for you.
If you do go Legato, just know that installing an OPV will void your warranty. It’s also really not necessary and you can control pressure via flow control.
Alternate candidates: Turin also has a dual boiler available for $800 or $900. So I’d put that in contention if you’re in the Profitec price range. Lelit Victoria is another good machine.
If you do go Legato, just know that installing an OPV will void your warranty. It’s also really not necessary and you can control pressure via flow control.
Alternate candidates: Turin also has a dual boiler available for $800 or $900. So I’d put that in contention if you’re in the Profitec price range. Lelit Victoria is another good machine.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 9:39 am to jordan21210
Good info! Yeah, I don't mind voiding the warranty as I'm pretty handy with Electronics. That more expensive Turin is a double boiler but no PID correct? I installed a PID on my Gaggia and I can't go back.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:53 am to Girth Donor
The only thing I’ll say re: warranty is if one of the things holding you back from the Legato is reliability of an unknown Chinese brand, then the warranty should rank high.
Yes, oddly, the dual boiler machine appears to not have a PID. It is also a 15bar pump. So while it’s got the perks of a dual boiler, it’s not perfect.
I think given your criteria, it’d be hard to not go Profitec Go. I will say I really enjoy my Legato, but I also was concerned with reliability. Not going to mess with an OPV until my warranty is up. Instead I dialed the flow down to 4ml/s and I find myself having to grind finer as my usual puck prep wouldn’t get me above 5 bars of pressure. The flow control works.
Yes, oddly, the dual boiler machine appears to not have a PID. It is also a 15bar pump. So while it’s got the perks of a dual boiler, it’s not perfect.
I think given your criteria, it’d be hard to not go Profitec Go. I will say I really enjoy my Legato, but I also was concerned with reliability. Not going to mess with an OPV until my warranty is up. Instead I dialed the flow down to 4ml/s and I find myself having to grind finer as my usual puck prep wouldn’t get me above 5 bars of pressure. The flow control works.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:52 pm to jordan21210
Looking at a tear down on YouTube, the Legato looks pretty sturdy internally. I was expecting a lot of plastic.
Honestly, if I was single I'd spend 3K+ but screw that with the wife. Just spent 4K on a Fridge so she'll bitch that we didn't get the subzero fridge
I'm gonna make a decision soon as I miss my morning drink. A French Press just doesn't hit as hard.
Honestly, if I was single I'd spend 3K+ but screw that with the wife. Just spent 4K on a Fridge so she'll bitch that we didn't get the subzero fridge
I'm gonna make a decision soon as I miss my morning drink. A French Press just doesn't hit as hard.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:20 pm to Girth Donor
Yeah I’ve watched some teardown videos and they all say it’s built far better than expected.
Whatever you get, make sure you get a good grinder to pair with it if you don’t have one already. Most important piece of the espresso puzzle.
Whatever you get, make sure you get a good grinder to pair with it if you don’t have one already. Most important piece of the espresso puzzle.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:33 pm to jordan21210
Already purchased. I bought an expensive manual grinder but it got old pretty fast.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:44 pm to Girth Donor
Where can I find some info on the boiler issues, Girth?
Posted on 3/1/24 at 3:18 pm to GynoSandberg
Reddit has a ton of info about it in the Gaggia subreddit. Just scroll down and you'll start to see a bunch of threads. There must be 15-20 threads about it but no new threads as the topic has been beaten to death.
Gaggia Subreddit
Gaggia Subreddit
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:31 am to BigPerm30
I’m an amateur coffee guy who just started drinking it in my adults years. I’ve done Keurig and Nespresso pods in the past.
What do y’all recommend for a drip machine?
What do y’all recommend for a drip machine?
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:19 pm to jimithing11
Anything SCA Certified is solid. Depends on budget though. Get a decent burr grinder and buy whole bean.
I have a Braun Multiserve which is nice because you can brew as little as one cup (directly into a cup) or a full pot. Used to have an OXO which was great as well.
I have a Braun Multiserve which is nice because you can brew as little as one cup (directly into a cup) or a full pot. Used to have an OXO which was great as well.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:28 pm to jimithing11
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What do y’all recommend for a drip machine?
I recently bought an OXO burr grinder and OXO 8 cup drip machine. Very basic drip machine but rated pretty highly for the price. The grinder is about as inexpensive as you can get for decent quality from the research I did.
I'm pleased with both. I've never really made anything but average or below average coffee at home and this combo is definitely a step up.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:16 pm to Professor Dawghair
Amazon Link
Amazon is having a sale on Breville Barista Machines. I don’t have any experience with these machines but wanted to pass it along.
Amazon is having a sale on Breville Barista Machines. I don’t have any experience with these machines but wanted to pass it along.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:07 am to BigPerm30
Roasting some Ethiopian Yirgacheffe right now.
I get green coffee beans from Burman Coffee. Roast them. Grind some every morning. And enjoy different coffees from around the world.
I get green coffee beans from Burman Coffee. Roast them. Grind some every morning. And enjoy different coffees from around the world.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:25 am to chrome1007
What kind of roast are you putting on them and how are you brewing the coffee?
I think I enjoy the dark roasts more. I do have a nice light Haitian bean that is nice and bright for a change of pace but I’m gravitating to the dark roasts.
I think I enjoy the dark roasts more. I do have a nice light Haitian bean that is nice and bright for a change of pace but I’m gravitating to the dark roasts.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:05 pm to BigPerm30
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Amazon is having a sale on Breville Barista Machines. I don’t have any experience with these machines but wanted to pass it along.
Does anybody have experience with one of these? I’m a complete novice when it comes to espresso machines. I’ve been looking for months at the various options in my price range (<$1000 for machine + grinder) but I get so overwhelmed by the pros and cons of each I just give up and walk to the coffee shop. Based on my research, at my price range the grinder is more important than the machine so I’m wondering if these machines with a grinder built-in are worth it.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:22 pm to Esquire
Been drinking Community and French market coffee forever. Any recommendations for coffee from central america and caribbean area? Recently went to honduras and tried cafe oro which was excellent. What else have you tried and is it obtainable in the US?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:04 pm to Esquire
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Does anybody have experience with one of these? I’m a complete novice when it comes to espresso machines. I’ve been looking for months at the various options in my price range (<$1000 for machine + grinder) but I get so overwhelmed by the pros and cons of each I just give up and walk to the coffee shop. Based on my research, at my price range the grinder is more important than the machine so I’m wondering if these machines with a grinder built-in are worth it.
A separate grinder is always better but I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. The Breville machines are good. Any of the ones on sale would serve you well. You could always upgrade grinder later.
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