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BBQ Chicken Wings - Brining Process Help
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:27 pm
This weekend, I smoked 20 drumsticks on the BGE. I've cooked a couple batches before, tweaking just the brine. My dumbass didn't write down the prior brine ingredient portions, but it's very close to what I have below.
I've perfected the juicy/tenderness/char, but this round came out saltier than usual.
Any thoughts on this brine recipe?
Brine Recipe:
- 1 cup brown sugar
- 1 cup salt brine
- threw in some rosemary and thyme from the garden (maybe 5 or 6 sprigs each).
- Almost 8 quarts of water.
- Brine for almost 24 hours in the fridge
Questions:
(1) Is that too much salt? My gut is telling me yes, but there are several sites that say to use a 1/1 ratio for brown sugar to salt brine and I blindly trusted them.
(2) Why does it matter adding the chicken to a hot brine vs. a cold brine?
I've perfected the juicy/tenderness/char, but this round came out saltier than usual.
Any thoughts on this brine recipe?
Brine Recipe:
- 1 cup brown sugar
- 1 cup salt brine
- threw in some rosemary and thyme from the garden (maybe 5 or 6 sprigs each).
- Almost 8 quarts of water.
- Brine for almost 24 hours in the fridge
Questions:
(1) Is that too much salt? My gut is telling me yes, but there are several sites that say to use a 1/1 ratio for brown sugar to salt brine and I blindly trusted them.
(2) Why does it matter adding the chicken to a hot brine vs. a cold brine?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:34 pm to RebelOP
A basic brine is 1 cup of salt, 1 cup of sugar, and 1 gallon of water.
You’re using 2 gallons of water. It’s actually not enough salt.
Temperature doesn’t really matter in the big picture. I hope when you say hot that you mean room temperature and not hotter than that. Most recipes say to boil the brine so the solution mixes. But always let the brine come back to a cool temperature before adding meat.
You’re using 2 gallons of water. It’s actually not enough salt.
Temperature doesn’t really matter in the big picture. I hope when you say hot that you mean room temperature and not hotter than that. Most recipes say to boil the brine so the solution mixes. But always let the brine come back to a cool temperature before adding meat.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:37 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:Well it was hotter than room temp. I boiled several cups of water to melt the brown sugar/salt then threw in the wings herbs and added the water from the faucet. So it was hot/really warm.
I hope when you say hot that you mean room temperature and not hotter than that.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:39 pm to RebelOP
If you put your chicken in hot water, bacteria can grow. Never put raw meat in water above room temperature. Ideally, it should be placed in cold water.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:45 pm to SixthAndBarone
For the sake of understanding why, I just want to know. Is bacteria the only reason why the brine needs to be at room temperature or cold water? Or is there more to it than that? Does the hot water affect the way the meat absorbs the brine at the same time?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:50 pm to RebelOP
quote:No more. No less. Just trying to keep you from making you or your guest seriously ill.
For the sake of understanding why, I just want to know. Is bacteria the only reason why the brine needs to be at room temperature or cold water? Or is there more to it than that?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:54 pm to RebelOP
Molecules move faster when the water is hot so I believe, speaking scientifically, warmer water can speed up brining, but it wouldn’t be a significant change.
This is the reasoning behind boiling the brine to mix it and so the molecules absorb into the solution. Heating the water helps that, but it’s not really needed if you don’t mind mixing by hand more.
I say brine needs to be room temperature or colder for bacteria. Room temp water really isn’t good for food safety, but it’s acceptable. Anything above room temp is unacceptable for food safety. For food safety, you want the brine the same temp as your fridge where you’re storing the chicken.
More than happy to discuss. Ask any questions you have.
This is the reasoning behind boiling the brine to mix it and so the molecules absorb into the solution. Heating the water helps that, but it’s not really needed if you don’t mind mixing by hand more.
I say brine needs to be room temperature or colder for bacteria. Room temp water really isn’t good for food safety, but it’s acceptable. Anything above room temp is unacceptable for food safety. For food safety, you want the brine the same temp as your fridge where you’re storing the chicken.
More than happy to discuss. Ask any questions you have.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:04 pm to SixthAndBarone
Best thing to do is keep cooking and trying out different brines. Find what works for you. If you think it’s salty, cut the salt back. Find the recipe that you like.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:05 pm to SixthAndBarone
What is it i'm missing you think? I understand what you said about bacteria, but there is something I'm missing.
- I pat the wings dry before and after brining.
- I smoke them for an hour and half on indirect heat for 225-250
- The sauce I use is vinegar based and from a great local BBQ restaurant. I've used it before and it was perfect! Sauce is mopped on the last 15-20 min while wings are on direct heat (BGE won't get above 325-350 at this point).
- I pat the wings dry before and after brining.
- I smoke them for an hour and half on indirect heat for 225-250
- The sauce I use is vinegar based and from a great local BBQ restaurant. I've used it before and it was perfect! Sauce is mopped on the last 15-20 min while wings are on direct heat (BGE won't get above 325-350 at this point).
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:06 pm to RebelOP
24 hrs is too long for wings. Small chicken pieces don’t need to be brined for more than 12 hrs. For wings, I’d think you could get away with as little as 4 hrs of brining.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:12 pm to Aubie Spr96
This is what they looked like.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:14 pm to Aubie Spr96
What are you not liking about the wings, just the salt? I agree that 24 hours may be too long in a salty brine.
There’s no need to dry wings before brining. You’re dropping them in water, why do they need to be dry?
Here’s what I suggest: 1 gallon water, 1/2 cup sugar, 1/2 cup salt, plus any other flavor you like. Mix together by hand in cold water. Don’t boil. Add the wings and brine them for 24 hours. Remove them, season them, and cook them. Try that out and see what you think.
Here’s why you use salt in a brine: the molecules in salt attach to the molecules in water AND the protein in the meat. Meaning, salt binds water to the meat. So brining with salt makes the meat hold water, which makes it juicer. But you don’t need a super salty brine to make this happen.
The meat can only physically hold a certain amount of water, so there’s really no worry about brining too long and getting too much water inside the meat. So cut back the salt and see what happens.
There’s no need to dry wings before brining. You’re dropping them in water, why do they need to be dry?
Here’s what I suggest: 1 gallon water, 1/2 cup sugar, 1/2 cup salt, plus any other flavor you like. Mix together by hand in cold water. Don’t boil. Add the wings and brine them for 24 hours. Remove them, season them, and cook them. Try that out and see what you think.
Here’s why you use salt in a brine: the molecules in salt attach to the molecules in water AND the protein in the meat. Meaning, salt binds water to the meat. So brining with salt makes the meat hold water, which makes it juicer. But you don’t need a super salty brine to make this happen.
The meat can only physically hold a certain amount of water, so there’s really no worry about brining too long and getting too much water inside the meat. So cut back the salt and see what happens.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:31 pm to SixthAndBarone
Just trying to understand why this batch was saltier than the ones I've done in the past.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:20 am to RebelOP
Just dry brine the wings. Heavily salt and let sit in fridge or counter top uncovered for an hour or so.
I “wet brined” some wings in a ziploc bag with a few tablespoons of pickle brine, salt, and Tony’s for an hour on July 4th. That was more than enough time to keep the chicken juicy on the grill.
I “wet brined” some wings in a ziploc bag with a few tablespoons of pickle brine, salt, and Tony’s for an hour on July 4th. That was more than enough time to keep the chicken juicy on the grill.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:09 am to SixthAndBarone
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Here’s what I suggest: 1 gallon water, 1/2 cup sugar, 1/2 cup salt, plus any other flavor you like. Mix together by hand in cold water. Don’t boil. Add the wings and brine them for 24 hours. Remove them, season them, and cook them. Try that out and see what you think.
This is exactly what I do on chicken pieces except the time. 12 hrs would be max for me. Typically, I’d drop them into a brine the morning of and cook that evening. You can get by with as little as 4 hrs if you want. I’ve dropped them in at lunch and cooked them for dinner.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:46 am to RebelOP
Consider not brining your chicken wings.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:05 am to RebelOP
Paper towel to dry wings and dry brine into fridge overnight.
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