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Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:31 pm to aVatiger
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Yeah, of course those trees would stop a barge
Of course
While Brightside is on a slight curve in the river, isn't a hard turn so I wouldn't be too worried about scouring the levee out or a loose barge running in there. But with water that high, anything can happen.
In all probability nothing will happen. Its just that if it does it will be very bad. I will not be evacuating, but I will have an emergency bag packed and in my truck by the 20th. Just in case.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:34 pm to tetu
I would be more worried about terrorist than a barge.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:34 pm to aVatiger
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No, the fact that it was implied that tree limbs can stop a barge is beyond ignorant
Who said anything about tree limbs?
If you have enough trees of a decent size and deep enough root systems, they could indeed stop a barge that just broke loose from hitting a levee.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:34 pm to TigerTatorTots
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This is a spot I'm worried about, being that there are barges there and little to no trees; right by Skip Bertman Drive
Current shouldnt really be going in that direction. That section of the river is nearly straight, shouldnt be problems.
On top of that how low do these barges and tankers sit in the river? The balast would have to clear the natural levee which sits at 35 ft.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:36 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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I would be more worried about terrorist than a barge.
Did you see the detonation of BP/RM? It took ALOT of explosives to bring that thing down.
All I'm saying is both theories are equally possible, but very unlikely.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:39 pm to tetu
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but I will have an emergency bag packed and in my truck by the 20th. Just in case.
me too, I'm not taking any chances. I'm just packing my electronics, cloths and important documents-paperwork.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:40 pm to c on z
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Supposedly the Levees during Katrina were supposed to hold.
Different type of levees.
Concrete flood walls were breached during Katrina.
Not concrete reinforced earthen levees.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:43 pm to Bard
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If you have enough trees of a decent size and deep enough root systems, they could indeed stop a barge that just broke loose from hitting a levee.
OK friend, sure
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:47 pm to aVatiger
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If you have enough trees of a decent size and deep enough root systems, they could indeed stop a barge that just broke loose from hitting a levee.
Is said barge loaded or unloaded. That would make a difference because if unloaded 10 ft of the barge is above water. If loaded 10 ft is below water.
That being said a loose barge will be headed downriver and will follow the current.
Bridges and barges and ships tied off are the most at risk for loose barges.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:50 pm to ItTakesAThief
well, this thread just went to shite.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:56 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Different type of levees.
Concrete flood walls were breached during Katrina.
Not concrete reinforced earthen levees.
Yeah I'm more concerned with the water moving that fast tearing up levees at the bends in the river.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 12:59 pm to TigerTatorTots
Why wouldn't they move the barges away from populated areas?
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:08 pm to Mac
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Why wouldn't they move the barges away from populated areas?
The barges are concentrated in areas of industry or at docks.
The problem is having a place to tie them off. As the river spreads out of the channel it is harder to find places to tie them off. If you tie them off outside of the channel, then you have to go back and move them back into the channel as the river recedes or your barges will be left on dry ground.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:08 pm to Mac
put all your drugs and cash in freezer bags.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:10 pm to Chad504boy
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put all your drugs and cash in freezer bags.
...And get the National Guard to escort you back to your house after the water has receded so you can pick up said bags.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:34 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Not saying you're wrong, but could you elaborate on this? Are you implying that the expected river crest of 47.5' is 25.5' higher than Brightside?
Not much to elaborate on. That's how it is. Brightside averages around 22'. The crest is 47.5'. Looks like your math is correct. Hell, I live in Midcity and my first floor is at 38'. The difference is that I live on the backside of the escarpment. Brightside is the floodplain.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:02 pm to tetu
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Yeah I'm more concerned with the water moving that fast tearing up levees at the bends in the river
Lexington and UC Club subdivisions should be concerned. There is a huge bend in the river close to these. I am concerned opening Morganza is not going to help enough.
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:13 pm to BottomlandBrew
BottomlandBrew
Could you please tell me kind sir the elavation at Highland and Lee? I stay right over there and I'm counting on Highland road being my buffer zone if the worst would happen but I may be way off at this point lol
Could you please tell me kind sir the elavation at Highland and Lee? I stay right over there and I'm counting on Highland road being my buffer zone if the worst would happen but I may be way off at this point lol
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:18 pm to bigbowe80
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elavation at Highland and Lee
The intersection sits at 31' according to LSU Atlas LIDAR data.
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