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how bad is west houma supposed to get

Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:35 am
Posted by LSUROCKS52
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:35 am
I'm talking about the area around the mall. i know bayou gardens will flood, but other streets around there?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:37 am to
I don't know Houma that well but would it flood hwy 315 and south to the golf course & Intercoatal?
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:38 am to
I don't think anyone really knows. I would bet that Savanne Road will go under near the rifle range and also between 311 and Rouses. There has been so much development and constriction in the drainage system since 1973 that no one can give that answer. Lets just hope it is much less than the max of 5' predicted.
Posted by LSUROCKS52
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:39 am to
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5' predicted.



frick

my mom lives on idlewild, right by the theater
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:50 am to
Does the MLK area get anything?
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:52 am to
I have no idea. The corps map put just about the entire parish under the cover their arse prediction of 0 to 5 feet
Posted by onomatopoeia
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 9:23 am to
any flooding going to happen in Lafourche parish?
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 9:26 am to
According to the Corps predictions Mathews/Lockport could see some pretty high water 5-10 ft. Other than that the western side of the parish has the same 0-5 prediction as Terrebonne. Mathews has to worry about back flooding from Bayou Folse and not so much from Bayou Lafourche.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 12:37 pm to
Looking at my in laws house on the elevation map, his front yard is -.225. I don't know if I like the idea of them babysitting my kids. He lives right next to the levee of the bayou dumar, which is at elevation +6.2!
Posted by Bowe Knows
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:04 pm to
I think the areas in Donner, Gibson, etc. can expect some possible flooding from the opening of Morganza and ORCS. This is just my own opinion, but I think the real threat of flooding in Terrebonne and Lafourche comes afterwards. They say our water table will be increased until July.

With that in mind, our drainage system will have very limited capacity for rainfall (especially if we have South winds) for the coming 8 weeks. This assumes it ever rains again here....

If we have any heavy rains, I foresee water rising and getting in homes because they can't turn on the pumps when the water on the outside is at the top of the drainage levees.

Dude is right. I'm sure we will see high water on Savanne near the rifle range. Not sure about near Rouses because I just can't see where the water would be coming from.

If you don't have flood insurance, I would still buy it even with the 30-day wait. Because we may be feeling the effects for 2.5 months.

And don't even get me started if the water level is high and we get an early season hurricane.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:07 pm to
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And don't even get me started if the water level is high and we get an early season hurricane


This is my biggest concern for Terrebonne. With all the flow from the North trying to get out they won't be able to close the locks and protect from the South. Even a disorganized low bringing rains and stiff south winds will spell trouble.
Posted by 633tiger
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:13 pm to
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bayoudude

You seem a bit uneasy today! Buy an extra 6 pack on the way home an slap the ole lady on the arse when you walk thru the door.

I'm just looking out for your well being.
Posted by Bowe Knows
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:17 pm to
I thought I heard they had already closed some of the locks to keep the inner water tables as low as possible. I think they are doing this in Dulac and Dularge on the southwest portion of the Parish where the increase water tables should be greater.
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Bowe Knows
Member since Sep 2004
959 posts
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:20 pm to
Bayoudude has nothing to worry about until Martin gets his stick out on HTV....then it is serious.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25531 posts
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:21 pm to
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You seem a bit uneasy today!


To say the least We have a tug to try and deliver before the flood waters, and switchboards for two others under construction in Stephensville Still can't get an answer of where that barge is supposed to be sunk in Bayou Chene.
Posted by crazytigerfan69
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:57 pm to
So Mathews and Lockport is going to get water from Lake Fields via the Intracoastal? What about the lock between Lake Fields and Houma in the Intracoastal?
Posted by Bowe Knows
Member since Sep 2004
959 posts
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:03 pm to
They must be anticipating something on Savanne near Rouses. Just passed on way home and they added some new dirt along that small levee on Savanne. Looks like they were marking the tops too. Ouski Bayou is very high too.
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:25 pm to
Let's just say Vernon better get deuce ready.
Posted by crazytigerfan69
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 8:39 pm to
I'm hearing that the corps didn't take into account the levees in and around Lafourche parish in that map that was released May 6th which makes a big difference. Anybody else hear this?
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6039 posts
Posted on 5/12/11 at 11:06 am to
Since this got missed in the anchored thread, thought I could throw it in here. Lotta trust in the Corps!
Got this in an email.


"Hello All

I would like to address the Inundation Maps recently produced and released by the Corps, specifically as they impact areas in our district in the Raceland to Larose area.

I was a bit taken aback by the inundation maps that the Corps put out over the weekend. At first glance, it appeared to me that the Corps was unaware of the levees that we have in these areas. We have no federal levees in our District. On Monday, I contacted the Corps to try to schedule a meeting with the Hydrologist and the GIS folks who put the map together to find out exactly what they knew and did not know when they put the maps together. Before the end of the day, I had the meeting scheduled for 10:00 am Tuesday in New Orleans. Later in the day Monday, I was able to get the same maps in a different file format from GOHSEP which included an “abstract” indicating some of the assumptions that were made on that map.

I met with the Corps and found out they did exactly as I suspected.



1) They were unaware of the levees we have in some of the areas where they show having 1-5 or 5-10 feet of water over ground in the Raceland, Mathews, Lockport and Larose. They did not therefore include them in their analysis and mapping effort. We discussed the alignments of these levees and agreed to provide them with GIS information so that they could include this in future maps.



2) The basic hydraulic approach used to indicate water from the Atchafalaya River, heading along the GIWW to the Lafourche area was pretty standard and likely a good estimation of the water surface elevations we could potentially see in our area. Basically, they assumed a 5’ water surface elevation at the GIWW near Morgan City and sloped the water to the west (and east.) Going west along the GIWW, they assumed a 3’ elevation in Houma and they carried this 3’ water surface elevation to Larose.



3) Given the time that this high water level will be present, they extended this water level (again without any of our levees being considered) to the 3’ contour of surrounding land north and south.



4) They then subtracted LIDAR based ground elevations from this projected 3’ water surface elevation to project the depth of the water over ground. In mapping this, and purposely to prevent the maps from being too precise, they colored anything that indicated a 0-5’ water depth as one color, anything that had a 5-10’ water depth as another color and so on…. Again, this was done without any knowledge of our levees.



5) As such, what we are really looking at is the potential of having a sustained 3’ water surface elevation acting on all of our levees in the event of the 50% opening of the Morganza Spillway. Our levees have withstood this before. Levee elevations are typically higher than this 3’ potential water elevation. The two areas west of Mathews and Lockport are the Raceland prairie area where the ground elevations are below sea level; but, the areas are surrounded by ring levees that exceed 5’ elevation. So, they would not be flooded by a 3’ water elevation on the outside.



6) They indicated that the maps were not intended to be looked at that closely and were much more of a broad brush look. I showed them the newspaper articles. I said, the articles say the maps show potential of flooding 5-10 feet west of Mathews and Lockport. Indeed they do.

In conclusion, I believe it is imperative that the residents in the central Lafourche area should maintain their diligence and not let their guard down. However, based on the information beyond the maps, we are projected to see a potential of water elevations slowly rising to a 3’ elevation along the levee systems. We will have time to continue monitoring the situation and address any weaknesses as they develop. In areas outside the levee system (gravity drainage areas) we will see water backing up into areas that typically do not have water. But, I believe given the slow rate of the encroachment of this water, the Parish and the NLLD should be able to stay ahead of these issues with traditional flood fighting methods.



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