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Why is everyone so high on Monte Ball?

Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:58 am
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20328 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 8:58 am
Dude sucked last year. I realize he's the #1 RB there by default, but being a late first round seems a little high.

Is there any way he'd really be a better grab than an elite receiver?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51979 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:02 am to
The second he fumbles it's the CJ Anderson show
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27515 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:02 am to
Wouldn't say he sucked. Thought he played well towards the end.

What backs behind him would you feel confident taking him?
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
52507 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:05 am to
quote:

The second he fumbles it's the CJ Anderson show




or the second he whiffs on a block and PFM gets creamed
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8762 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:07 am to
I wouldn't say he sucked.

He managed to rush for 560 yards (4.7 YPC) and 4 TDs to go along with 20 receptions in what was a pretty shaky start to his career. He had fumbling issues (which ran in contrast to his career at Wisconsin), but started seeing a heavier workload late in the season.

Saw close to 10 carries per game and averaged over two receptions over the final eight games (regular season and postseason).

I wouldn't touch him in the first round. That might be a bit high, but he will have a lot of open lanes and opportunities out of the backfield in that Denver offense.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3069 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:08 am to
As a Ball owner last year, he would've been very frustrating if I didn't take him so late in my draft.

Guy showed potential at the end of last year. I don't think he is worth a late first or early second, but could warrant late second in a PPR with Moreno gone.

Just look at the year Knowshown had. Unless your worried about big bad Ronnie Hillman taking his touches, Ball could be quite the catch (if/when he learns to pass block).
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27515 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:21 am to
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As a Ball owner last year, he would've been very frustrating if I didn't take him so late in my draft.


Well, yeh. He was a backup to a top-5 back.

Christine Michael was a pain in the arse, too.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38495 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:22 am to
Way I see it, Moreno is an average back and he excelled in that offense. I believe that who ever is the lead back will do well in that offense. I dont see it as an individual thing, its more of a system thing.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81089 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:22 am to
Played pretty good when he was given touches later in the season. Any RB that doesn't frick up will be able to at least trip into the endzone a half dozen times due to the offense he is on.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
159147 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:34 am to
still tons of unknown with him and I've seen him going in the first round. People are just assuming he'll get Moreno's production and then some. He still has fumbling and pass protection issues, which are quick ways to get in Peyton's dog house.
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:45 am to
Too much risk for a 1st or early 2nd Rd pick.

He has potential to be a top 3 PPR back in that offense, or he could bust.

Don't draft potential when you can get a safe top 3 WR or QB.

You can't win your league with a first Rd pick, but you can lose it it's a bust.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17717 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:49 am to
I agree. I just can't get on board Ball at the price he's going for.

He did look good at the end of the season, that I'll admit. But a late 1st/early 2nd? Nah bra. That's Brandon Marshall territory.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
29018 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:30 pm to
I don't buy him either. John Fox has always favored veteran RBs in Carolina and Denver. Don't see him having a breakout year. Look for him to split time if anything. Plus he isn't the greatest at picking up the blitz.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27515 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:39 pm to
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I don't buy him either. John Fox has always favored veteran RBs in Carolina and Denver.


Little bit of hyperbole. Stewart was very good his second year and DWilly also had a solid season before breaking out in year 3.

quote:

Plus he isn't the greatest at picking up the blitz.


This isn't a 40 yard dash; he can get better in that area.

Are players not allowed to work on pass protection away from the actual games?
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
159147 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:41 pm to
NO
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
29018 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:41 pm to
He'll get better sure, but look at Fox's history with RBs. All have had experience and he's given them the ball. Ball won't get all the touches this season. LINK

I'd much rather Bell in Pitt.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72327 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:45 pm to
People are so in love with Leveon Bell and Eddie Lacy. Ball was more impressive on the field than both of those guys once Ball got playing time

I think Ball is going to be a stud.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8762 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:51 pm to
Not sure I could take Ball before Lacy and be comfortable with it, but I absolutely could take Ball before Bell and sleep well at night.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27515 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:55 pm to
Did you just link me to an article from last year?

You said Fox doesn't play young backs -- which semi-right in that he doesn't trust rookie backs, evidenced by the year old link you posted.

What the frick does that have to do with second-year running back Montee Ball?
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:01 pm to
so draft Ball and CJ....one will be startable
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