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TDBBL Week 4: Make TDBBL great again.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:20 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:20 am
so you guys. thus far, this league to me has been pretty damn boring. no one is going into the waiver pool. no one is making trades. no one is participating in the league wide chat.
week 1 people said it was because of the world series.
week 2 it's early
week 3 since i didn't start a new thread, no one did.
week 4 here we are now.
now i'm not trying to say we shouldn't have changed. i just want to know why you guys aren't participating. we redid the league to make it more fun. we upped the ante. we encouraged more people to play.
are you guys enjoying this? am i crazy? this league is MORE fun than the one that preceded it?
to me, there's a couple of problems: we front loaded all participation and action into the auction draft. we made the rosters too deep (too many roster spots). teams have everybody they ever wanted and so the league is stagnant. there's no reason to curry or brag or discuss or deal. no reason to play for the future, just the decision to double down on your draft. it's just a steady influx of games and stats.
i also feel a general apathy. not a single person has filled out their trade block.
if i'm wrong and everyone is loving this. i'll shut up and just play the year out.
but if i'm not, i'd love it if people spoke up. we all paid $100 for this. might as well be fun.
thoughts?
week 1 people said it was because of the world series.
week 2 it's early
week 3 since i didn't start a new thread, no one did.
week 4 here we are now.
now i'm not trying to say we shouldn't have changed. i just want to know why you guys aren't participating. we redid the league to make it more fun. we upped the ante. we encouraged more people to play.
are you guys enjoying this? am i crazy? this league is MORE fun than the one that preceded it?
to me, there's a couple of problems: we front loaded all participation and action into the auction draft. we made the rosters too deep (too many roster spots). teams have everybody they ever wanted and so the league is stagnant. there's no reason to curry or brag or discuss or deal. no reason to play for the future, just the decision to double down on your draft. it's just a steady influx of games and stats.
i also feel a general apathy. not a single person has filled out their trade block.
if i'm wrong and everyone is loving this. i'll shut up and just play the year out.
but if i'm not, i'd love it if people spoke up. we all paid $100 for this. might as well be fun.
thoughts?
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 8:32 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:26 am to LSU Fan 90812
i think it's a little early to call out the trade issue b/c it's very early in the season still
people don't even know what they have in terms of teams, yet.
this year is going to be a long learning curve for all the teams
people don't even know what they have in terms of teams, yet.
this year is going to be a long learning curve for all the teams
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:28 am to LSU Fan 90812
Loving the format, loving the roster sizes, loving the keeper twist.
Trades will come, hard to know where you are this early in season.
If this were old TDBBL, people would already be selling out for next year.
Trades will come, hard to know where you are this early in season.
If this were old TDBBL, people would already be selling out for next year.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think it's a little early to call out the trade issue b/c it's very early in the season still
people don't even know what they have in terms of teams, yet.
this year is going to be a long learning curve for all the teams
fair. but i'd rather be early on a trend than late.
how do you feel about the league? are you enjoying more less or same?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:29 am to Toula
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If this were old TDBBL, people would already be selling out for next year.
true. i'm okay with parity. but i think we do have stagnation.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:33 am to LSU Fan 90812
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how do you feel about the league? are you enjoying more less or same?
less right now, but i'm biased

Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:34 am to LSU Fan 90812
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so you guys. thus far, this league to me has been pretty damn boring. no one is going into the waiver pool. no one is making trades. no one is participating in the league wide chat.
this
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:37 am to LSU Fan 90812
Bump last year's thread. Compare. Eat crow.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:38 am to LSU Fan 90812
There's already been a few trades this year, and we are just in week 4.
You won't have the volume of deals b/c you can't trade picks for players and you won't have the 2/3 for 1 consolidation keeper moves. Both are good for competitive balance.
Everything about this set-up is more strategic than old format.
You won't have the volume of deals b/c you can't trade picks for players and you won't have the 2/3 for 1 consolidation keeper moves. Both are good for competitive balance.
Everything about this set-up is more strategic than old format.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:39 am to LSU Fan 90812
1. my team sucks
2. the FA pool is fricking atrocious
3. I miss having Steph
2. the FA pool is fricking atrocious
3. I miss having Steph
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:41 am to Toula
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Everything about this set-up is more strategic than old format.
I guess...but the parameters of the league don't allow for very much maneuvering.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:41 am to PortCityTiger24
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Bump last year's thread. Compare. Eat crow.
port, i'm not trying to undermine your commissionership. i'm just trying to figure out why this league doesn't seem as fun to me.
we can be proactive not reactive. and last year's clearly was problematic as well.
if this is a process, then why can we not tweak? no one is blaming anyone for getting anything wrong. but we used to have a way of shifting things if it made the league more fun. i believe it was 75% in season votes.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:43 am to Toula
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Everything about this set-up is more strategic than old format.
i believe that the strategy is there but is front-loaded, and therefore less engaged through the season.
if there were some steps that could be taken to make us continue our strategy throughout the season, i believe we could make this more fun.
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I guess...but the parameters of the league don't allow for very much maneuvering
or incentive to maneuver.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 8:46 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:48 am to LSU Fan 90812
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port, i'm not trying to undermine your commissionership. i'm just trying to figure out why this league doesn't seem as fun to me.
because it was all centered around the draft
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:57 am to gadknot
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because it was all centered around the draft
so are there any proposed tweaks or fixes that could make for a more interesting league?
my initial response was an immediate skim of the roster slots. we couldn't in the settings, but we could enforce a mandatory cast back of a # of players to the waiver pool.
trying to think of other ideas.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:58 am to LSU Fan 90812
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i believe that the strategy is there but is front-loaded,
Well yea, there's a huge emphasis on the draft. So it's naturally going to be front loaded. The draft in the old format was pointless.
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if there were some steps that could be taken to make us continue our strategy throughout the season, i believe we could make this more fun.
To me, the early season strategy is day to day management of rosters- which $1 guys to you hold onto hoping they become a good $6 keeper, how you navigate the 45 gp limit without streaming, etc
Trading will come as owners adapt to value under the new rules. And there's no tanking, so it's make moves to compete or be left behind.
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or incentive to maneuver.
Winning a league isn't incentive enough to maneuver?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:02 am to Toula
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Winning a league isn't incentive enough to maneuver?
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To me, the early season strategy is day to day management of rosters- which $1 guys to you hold onto hoping they become a good $6 keeper, how you navigate the 45 gp limit without streaming, etc
another move that encourages stagnation.
so maybe what i'm missing is that this game strategy is extremely long term. but not as quite engageable on a daily basis.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:04 am to Toula
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which $1 guys to you hold onto hoping they become a good $6 keeper,
there really isnt much thought in that since there is no one worth dropping them for
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:04 am to LSU Fan 90812
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so maybe what i'm missing is that this game strategy is extremely long term. but not as quite engageable on a daily basis.
I think that is the correct answer
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:13 am to LSU Fan 90812
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port, i'm not trying to undermine your commissionership.
You had a couple years where you completely checked out / stopped setting your lineup after the first month of the season. You weren't talking in the weekly threads. I look at my lineup at the beginning of the week and tweak it as I go. I am glad that I have the ability to add guys here and there but am also glad streaming is not a huge factor. If you aren't "having fun" I'm sorry, I just don't empathize at all.

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