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re: NBC just said Josh Gordon could come back
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:02 am to jimithing11
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:02 am to jimithing11
quote:That's what I'm saying. JG got arrested in July. He has not been convicted yet. All I'm saying is that The DWI can't be factored into his suspension until he is convicted, with the new agreement. That won't happen until the end of the season probably, which may give him some kind of suspension next year. I think that's the big deal hear.
huh?
That stuff takes about a year. D. Bowe got popped for MJ possession last November and just got suspended a game last month
They are basing a year suspension on the fact that he had a DUI plus the failed drug test. If you take the DUI out of the equation, he should have no more than Bowe got for a failed drug test. 1 Game. Already served.
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:11 am to abellsujr
so you're saying gordon plays this weekend? 
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:21 am to abellsujr
No they aren't
No offense, but I'm guessing you didn't keep up much with Gordon before pickin him up. I've been following this since May.
The DUI wasn't a part of his appeal. The two were separate instances and independent of one another. Therefore it has no bearing on his original 365-day ban.
With the current situation, reports have already stated NFL has backed off original proposal of allowing DUI's to be punished without due process.
The DUI is irrelevant in all of this. He'll likely have to deal with it next year.
And what does Bowe have to do with Gordon? Gordon has failed multiple tests. Bowe didn't fail a test. Just for arrested for possession.
The issue at hand is that the NFL would essentially reinstate everyone then suspend Gordon again for 6-8 games. Makes no sense
No offense, but I'm guessing you didn't keep up much with Gordon before pickin him up. I've been following this since May.
The DUI wasn't a part of his appeal. The two were separate instances and independent of one another. Therefore it has no bearing on his original 365-day ban.
With the current situation, reports have already stated NFL has backed off original proposal of allowing DUI's to be punished without due process.
The DUI is irrelevant in all of this. He'll likely have to deal with it next year.
And what does Bowe have to do with Gordon? Gordon has failed multiple tests. Bowe didn't fail a test. Just for arrested for possession.
The issue at hand is that the NFL would essentially reinstate everyone then suspend Gordon again for 6-8 games. Makes no sense
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:22 am to Nonetheless
I'm saying, that's what SHOULD happen. Yes. Anything else is a failure in the system.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:23 am to abellsujr
by the way, you're going down this week in the auction league 
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:32 am to jimithing11
quote:Good to know.
The DUI wasn't a part of his appeal. The two were separate instances and independent of one another. Therefore it has no bearing on his original 365-day ban.
quote:They didn't drug test him after?
Just for arrested for possession.
The original statement of Goodell stated that a conviction was not merited for a suspension. Hence the Big Ben suspension. With the new agreement, one has to follow the due process model and get convicted before a punishment can be given on the part of the NFL. If Bowe gets arrested for weed, he then wasn't drug tested? Why would it matter. He's guilty. He got ONE game. Why should Josh G get anymore?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:34 am to Nonetheless
quote:Probably so. fricking Torrey Smith
by the way, you're going down this week in the auction league
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:46 am to abellsujr
Well Bowe wasn't suspended for failing a drug test.
Gordon was, for the second time and third-time offender dating back to his collegiate days.
Therefore there's no correlation between the two.
Gordon was, for the second time and third-time offender dating back to his collegiate days.
Therefore there's no correlation between the two.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:58 am to jimithing11
So we're talking about failed drug test going back to hi collegiate days? The DUI had to be factored in the original suspension. Godell has even said that he doesn't need a conviction to give punishment. That's kind of the issue here. The owners are not happy about the inconsistencies in punishments and also the fact that Due Process was not allowed to occur before punishment.
I do have a question, Has Josh Gordon been suspended before?
I do have a question, Has Josh Gordon been suspended before?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:03 am to jimithing11
quote:
we don't know that for sure.
IMO, it defies the whole point of a union. It should be everyone and clear-cut across the board. Everyone gets reinstated or no deal. A case-by-case basis is pointless. It gives the NFL all the leverage back.
No, we don't. But if we are going to give credibility to Rapaport for his news about there being a vote on Friday, then it would not be unreasonable to give credit to him (and his source) regarding the individual basis way of handling things with the new agreement.
Gordon's failed test came before the 2014 league year so that is why some are saying his case is different and thus will be handled differently. If the agreement includes everyone who tested positive (but negative under the new levels) during the 2014 football year getting a clean slate, then that wouldn't include Gordon. If, however, the agreement wipes clean things for everyone who was suspended during the 2014 football year, then that would include Gordon.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:07 am to The Pain Train
Damn. I don't how Josh Gordon functions on this shite.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:15 am to abellsujr
@ the goodell picPosted on 9/12/14 at 2:42 am to abellsujr
quote:
I do have a question, Has Josh Gordon been suspended before?
That's what I'm saying. You don't know the whole backstory. Just trust me with what I'm getting at.
He's been suspended once already. Two games last year for codeine. It was four but got it reduced to two.
Current NFL substance abuse is as follows: first offense you enter into the program but no suspension. Second offense is four game suspension, which he got last summer. He was also in stage 2 upon entering the league do to multiple failed tests in college.
Second offense doesn't automatically put you in stage 3, but reports say part of the deal from getting it cut from 4 to 2 put him in 3. Essentially he got to play two more games by voluntarily going into stage 3. When in state 3, if you test positive, it's a year-long ban.
And as I reiterated, the DUI had absolutely nothing to do with the original suspension. In fact, the DUI came after the original suspension. The news leaked during the draft in May. He got popped for the DUI in July. The suspension had 100 percent to do with a failed weed test and 0 percent to do with DUI or anything else. The two incidents are independent of each other.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:45 am to The Pain Train
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If, however, the agreement wipes clean things for everyone who was suspended during the 2014 football year, then that would include Gordon.
yeah but that's the only way he gets reinstated. The way they are talking is that he would get reinstated, but still face a lengthy suspension (6-10 games).
So in that case, it doesn't wipe everyone clean. There have already been multiple reports saying it will be a case-by-case basis. That could obviously change.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:16 am to abellsujr
quote:
abellsujr
Damn dude, do you even Josh Gordon?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:32 am to Honkus
Jimi is a damn Gordonistorian
Posted on 9/12/14 at 6:50 am to castorinho
Today's the day! JG Smoke Train baby.
But it might be tomorrow.
But it might be tomorrow.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:07 am to auisssa
My body is ready!
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:16 am to rballa19
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