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re: Do Not Draft Thread

Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:23 pm to
This thread just reminded me to make my yearly sig quote update to the Rule of DeAngelo.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:25 pm to
I feel like you can get great value on Romo. That D is going to suck and with Linnehan calling the plays they're going to throw and throw and throw.

Unless you're just more worried about his back, I don't see the downside
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:26 pm to
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I was surprised he was still available at 19 in the M/TV draft


His ADP is all over the place on different sites when I looked it up.

If I drafted him it would be just to say I drafted a running back early on. I don't want to draft like that.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:28 pm to
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I feel like you can get great value on Romo. That D is going to suck and with Linnehan calling the plays they're going to throw and throw and throw. Unless you're just more worried about his back, I don't see the downside


Romo is definitely a buy from me

Good Oline, Witten, Williams, Dez and possibly the worst D in the league. Shoutouts all year.

And that game losing interception he throws every couple games won't hurt you that much
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:32 pm to
Matt Ryan threw a ton last season and was playing from behind a lot. Ended up outside the top 10 still. Only exception is his O-Line was terrible.

I would think with that line in Dallas they would want to give Murray the ball more this season. Then again it's Dallas
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:36 pm to
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Matt Ryan threw a ton last season and was playing from behind a lot. Ended up outside the top 10 still. Only exception is his O-Line was terrible.




and he lost his best WR in week 5. But yea.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:39 pm to
In reality, he lost both of his best WRs for most of the season
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:41 pm to
And had zero running game. And made Harry Douglas a nice play.
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:41 pm to
Yeah he was a guaranteed 300 and 2 every week until then. Just trying to say that bad defenses aren't always good for the same team's QB
Posted by dawgsjw
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:28 pm to
Why are some of yall done on Foles? I picked him up last year and he played very well. I would expect him to put up similar numbers, although this td:int ratio should come down back to earth. I also see Romo as a good late rd value qb, but I wouldn't want to have him.

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Andre Ellington


Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

QBs
Tony Romo
Colin Kaepernick
Nick Foles

RBs
Doug Martin
Monte Ball
Arian Foster
Andre Ellington

Toby Gerhart

WRs
Larry Fitzgerald
DeSean Jackson
Percy Harvin
Hakeem Nicks


You have got to be trolling with these. You cant honestly believe this?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:22 am to
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VJAX just isn't trustworthy enough. He's a big play guy, always has been.

6
4
3
5
8
7

^^^ VJAX's scoring output in 6 games last year (PPR). He literally scored half of his points in 4 games (121 out of 242). His numbers may be sexy at the end but he has huge games followed by turd games. Just not what I want in relation to where he's drafted


Those are some good points. When looking at how McCown played last year, do you still feel that he wont target VJax alot. I think those fluctuations in numbers was more about QB play and constantly throwing the deep ball on the 9 route last year. Very low percentage completion. I think Jackson could have a career year this year.
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:52 am to
Well considering Doug Martin is just about last in broken tackles in the past two seasons that doesn't speak well on his production.

Foster will give you problems every week and will end up being a constant game time decision player. He's already sitting out at camp with a hamstring.

Romo wont repeat the same numbers he had last season, which was a career high for him. The cowboys will be bad and so will he. Expect them to be drafting a new QB next year.

Ball and Ellington are WAY overpriced. Dont see it happening for either of them this season.

Jackson is a bang or bust player. Plus I'd much rather Garcon of anybody on that team.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Jackson is a bang or bust player. Plus I'd much rather Garcon of anybody on that team.


agree on this, Jackson is way overpriced this year.

do not want.

quote:

Foster


don't wanna touch Foster in any league.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Those are some good points. When looking at how McCown played last year, do you still feel that he wont target VJax alot. I think those fluctuations in numbers was more about QB play and constantly throwing the deep ball on the 9 route last year. Very low percentage completion. I think Jackson could have a career year this year.



You can trace Jackson's numbers back the last 2 or 3 years. It's the same MO for him; 30 point games followed by 3 point games. Of course, the weeks he goes off you are guaranteed to win almost. But when he has a clunker (especially in the playoffs) then you are fricked.

And who exactly is McCown? Career journeyman for a reason. Not saying it cannot work, but you have to be skeptical. Are you prepared to throw your eggs in a basket and draft VJax as a WR1 based upon a few weeks of McCown last season?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:18 am to
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You can trace Jackson's numbers back the last 2 or 3 years. It's the same MO for him; 30 point games followed by 3 point games. Of course, the weeks he goes off you are guaranteed to win almost. But when he has a clunker (especially in the playoffs) then you are fricked.

Yup. Plus, Vincent Jackson was the same guy even with a really good QB in Philip Rivers.

You are getting roughly 70/1100/7 with really inconsistent play. That is still good, but probably not worth the price tag. I have never owned him.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:23 am to
Vincent Jackson WILL break your heart.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Hakeem Nicks


wut

he's gonna be a late round steal
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/8/14 at 1:18 pm to
This is my "Do Not Draft" list.

2014 New York Jets Roster

Caveat: I would, however, consider Chris Johnson for a RB3 or RB4.

There is a high probability that these players will also make my "Do Not Draft" list.

2014 Oakland Raiders Roster



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