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re: Brand New TD Dynasty League - Season 2

Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 9:12 pm to
Would everyone rather run with 14 or 16?

Theoretically there are enough players to run big rosters, but we will prob do some tweaking once we decide.
Posted by FatClemanza
In the sky with diamonds
Member since Jul 2013
824 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 11:35 pm to
Im honestly cool with either.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17277 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:03 am to
So where are we at gyne?

I also think that we will probably want to do FAAB because of amount of players being rostered.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:11 am to
If you go 16 then I am in. If y'all play 14 no hard feelings my way.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17277 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:21 am to
So I think we are just waiting to hear from LE. We also haven't heard from BillJ.

Option 1: Le out and Port in
Option 2: LE in and Port out
Option 3. LE in, and league increases to 16 to accommodate Port and BillJ(?)

Also, If we do top 8/bottom 8 (I want), I don't think ESPN will do this.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:29 am to
We will proceed with 14

- No K or DEF seems to be consensus

- FAAB or rolling waiver? I agree, FAAB is way to go. Won't be too much action on the wire in a league this size either way.

- Postion breakdown can go something like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
FLEX (RB/WR/TE)
FLEX (RB/WR/TE)

9 starting spots
Let's call it 11 bench spots, even 20 man rosters. We could subtract a WR spot, run 3 flexes, something like that. I like the idea of large starting rosters like DT45 mentioned.

Would like some thoughts here.


- Top/Bottom scoring, pretty self explanatory

- Scoring

Main issue will be QB passing TDs - 4 or 6?
1 PPR
1 pt every 10 yds rush
1 pt every 10 yd receiving
1 pt every 25 pass
6 for rushing/rec TD
milestone bonuses? 300 yd pass, 100 rec or rush etc??
return yards? could be a good idea, will open up player pool some, especially w 3 WR and 2 flex


- Bottom feeder penalty? will discourage tanking. in the same breath, im thinking we run a weighted lottery for rookie drafts in following seasons. Dont want a team to tank and automatically win 1st overall pick. Teams that don't make playoffs will be assigned a number of balls. Playoff teams would draft in reverse order of standings after lottery is ran.

- Inaugural slow draft will consist of every player. We will run random draft order thingy, that order will allow whoever is first to chose his draft position, then second will pick their position, and so on. This will take awhile, so while it's a slow draft, we just ask that owners be mindful of time. We can set a modest time limit. We can track in a thread then add to ESPN when they go live.



what else , what else ....
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:36 am to
Lester is playing

Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17277 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:


- No K or DEF seems to be consensus


AGREE

quote:

- FAAB or rolling waiver? I agree, FAAB is way to go. Won't be too much action on the wire in a league this size either way.


FAAB
quote:

- Postion breakdown can go something like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
FLEX (RB/WR/TE)
FLEX (RB/WR/TE)


I like this. 14 teams x 20 players = 280 players

quote:

- Top/Bottom scoring, pretty self explanatory



YEPO

quote:

- Scoring

Main issue will be QB passing TDs - 4 or 6?
1 PPR
1 pt every 10 yds rush
1 pt every 10 yd receiving
1 pt every 25 pass
6 for rushing/rec TD
milestone bonuses? 300 yd pass, 100 rec or rush etc??
return yards? could be a good idea, will open up player pool some, especially w 3 WR and 2 flex



Not a fan of Milestones or Return yards, but that is partially because I don't typically have leagues like that.

quote:

- Bottom feeder penalty? will discourage tanking. in the same breath, im thinking we run a weighted lottery for rookie drafts in following seasons. Dont want a team to tank and automatically win 1st overall pick. Teams that don't make playoffs will be assigned a number of balls. Playoff teams would draft in reverse order of standings after lottery is ran.


Meh on the penalty. I like the weighted Lottery idea.

quote:

- Inaugural slow draft will consist of every player. We will run random draft order thingy, that order will allow whoever is first to chose his draft position, then second will pick their position, and so on. This will take awhile, so while it's a slow draft, we just ask that owners be mindful of time. We can set a modest time limit. We can track in a thread then add to ESPN when they go live.


Sounds good. Anyone not normally in a TD league should let the league know google chat ID, etc.


Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:45 am to
FAAB seems fine to me.

I think I would prefer a 3rd flex instead of 3 wr spots.

I want top/bottom.

I guess I will lean towards 4 pt passing td and to include mile stone bonuses. I am uncertain though and could be swayed.

I would like to hear what other ideas people have about discouraging tanking. Someone else said to use projections after fantasy regular season ends. You are saying penalties and a lottery for the draft. All these options seem to have their particular issues to me, even if necessary. I would just like to hear some more options if anyone has any ideas.

Also, I already mentioned that I think future draft picks should be able to be traded but no more than one year in the future, if anyone has any opinions on that.

This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:46 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I think I would prefer a 3rd flex instead of 3 wr spots.


That was my 2nd thought, either would work. The challenge of finding a viable 3rd WR is appealing to me.

quote:

Someone else said to use projections after fantasy regular season ends.


not sure what this means

quote:

You are saying penalties and a lottery for the draft. All these options seem to have their particular issues to me, even if necessary.


Both arent necessary, but there will be some BAD teams in this league. Once they are out of contention and getting their arse kicked, we dont want them not setting their lineup (will be monitored and not allowed regardless) or starting questionable players to get a better draft spot. I think a lottery is a good idea, with maybe the worst team paying a penalty.

quote:

Also, I already mentioned that I think future draft picks should be able to be traded but no more than one year in the future, if anyone has any opinions on that.


this is how we will play it
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

We can track in a thread then add to ESPN when they go live.


So you're going with ESPN. Going to have to keep track of traded picks in the league thread
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:00 pm to
I'm good will everything cept return yards. I'd vote no milestones but won't throw a fit if y'all want that.

And just want everyone to know, slow draft doesn't mean sloooooow draft. This is probably gonna take awhile. Please be courteous.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278480 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
Return yards should be included to make more players relevant jimo
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Once they are out of contention and getting their arse kicked, we dont want them not setting their lineup (will be monitored and not allowed regardless) or starting questionable players to get a better draft spot. I


This is what pisses me off. It happens in other leagues I'm in on TD. This is unacceptable to me. Play to win the game. If you get caught not setting your lineup you get one warning. Second time, you're out. That's how I feel.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

So you're going with ESPN. Going to have to keep track of traded picks in the league thread


doesnt matter to me, we can do yahoo. do they allow pick trading?

quote:

Return yards should be included to make more players relevant jimo



I agree. usually id be against it
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

not sure what this means


I'm not exactly sure what he meant or how it would work. I guess you could look at the projected weekly point totals for the rest of the season and use it to project out wins and losses to determine draft order for those who have been eliminated so that tanking wouldn't actually help. I'm not sure if this actually works. It might be too convoluted.

quote:

Both arent necessary, but there will be some BAD teams in this league. Once they are out of contention and getting their arse kicked, we dont want them not setting their lineup (will be monitored and not allowed regardless) or starting questionable players to get a better draft spot. I think a lottery is a good idea, with maybe the worst team paying a penalty.


I understand and agree that some sort of mechanism will be necessary to discourage tanking. I just don't particularly like these two options. Of the two I would prefer the lottery. I don't like the kind of added chance that it introduces. It is probably just be a necessary evil though. I just wanted to see if anyone would have any better ideas. I don't.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

doesnt matter to me, we can do yahoo. do they allow pick trading?


Don't know about yahoo. I like Fantrax because it's clear on who owns what pick. But if we're only doing a year out on trading picks, it won't be a big deal.

IR? Two per team? Once they get off IR, must be moved from team's IR in a prompt manner or draft picks to be docked? Let's not have a FSBDL sitch
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Also, If we do top 8/bottom 8 (I want), I don't think ESPN will do this.


You can go in and manually adjust the matchups for the week the next day, Tom
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

You can go in and manually adjust the matchups for the week the next day, Tom


You can do it the same day (Monday Night). We couldn't use it for TDFL because it tops out at 20 teams and we had 24. We used ESPN for the regulars just fine.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72031 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Don't know about yahoo. I like Fantrax because it's clear on who owns what pick. But if we're only doing a year out on trading picks, it won't be a big deal.


I figured ESPN or Yahoo would be easier for those not familiar w fantrax. Dont think we want to go through the "growing pains" of walking people through Fantrax plus you gotta pay.

like you said, tracking wont be hard.

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IR? Two per team? Once they get off IR, must be moved from team's IR in a prompt manner or draft picks to be docked? Let's not have a FSBDL sitch


two sounds good. ESPN wont allow roster moves with an ineligible guy on IR, so that's good
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