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A little ray rice/Gary Kubiak tidbit

Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:12 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:12 am
As either a HC or OC, Gary Kubiak offenses have finished top 5 in rushing yards 10 times

Ray rice is going in the 5th/6th round I think. With that pedigree in the new system, could that be a steal? Fully healthy, noticeably quicker, eating up like 7 ypc in fht preseason behind running w the 1s

I'm not sayin I'm just sayin
Posted by bayouboy33
Lowcountry
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:13 am to
Apparently this guy in my league REALLY likes him some Ray Ray. He went 1st round, 8th pick
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:15 am to
Told someone yesterday I hope he turns out to be the steal of the draft for me.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:18 am to
a steal as long as Pierce doesn't light it up the first 2 weeks
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:18 am to
for where people are drafting him, I think he's a damn steal

people saying pierce will steal that job while ray is out are crazy.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:21 am to
I like ray this year.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:24 am to
Thinking about offering a guy Miller and Gerhart for Rice. His RBs are Gore and Tate. Would give me Forte, Martin and Rice.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:25 am to
Pierce was supposed to steal the job last year too and couldn't break 3 yards per. As bad as rice was, he was worse
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:27 am to
I've taken him in 3 leagues so far all in the 5th round. Yahoo's ADP has him pretty low in the 7th/8th round range.

He's definitely a lotto ticket worth taking.
Posted by rballa19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4379 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:31 am to
I traded Cecil shorts for him straight up last week. Dude drafted a lot of RBs and needed WR depth. I felt bad, but oh well
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3502 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:54 am to
haha, our 8th pick, first round was Jordy Nelson
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33734 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:21 pm to
i got him pretty easily last night in an auction draft.

i was surprised really, figured people could look past the 2 game suspension.

i feel like he was my best bargain last night. Last year I got Josh Gordon for very cheap and he was going to miss his first 2 games as well.

hope this is another good omen.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:22 pm to
Rice will be in a committee with Pierce by Week 3
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Pierce was supposed to steal the job last year too and couldn't break 3 yards per. As bad as rice was, he was worse



Yeah but Pierce isn't going anywhere. I think the point is that Harbaugh doesn't believe in feeding Rice 20-25 touches a game. So even if Pierce is averaging negative yards, he's still going to spell Rice a good bit, potentially at the GL.

I still think he'll be a solid back in PPR though
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

a steal as long as Pierce doesn't light it up the first 2 weeks


this and pierce was being worked in the last 2 years to begin with despite good numbers from rice.

I stayed away...I have a bad feeling about ravens offensive players and the eagles...nothing to base that on other than a gut feeling
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

This and pierce was being worked in the last 2 years


and he has done what with that so far?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 12:47 pm to
Lorenzo Taliaferro is the guy id be worried about. Pierce has showed what he can do; he can only be a sleeper and the guy who's going to force a timeshare for so long. and he has this concussion that can linger.

Kubiak offense has never been big on timeshares historically. Pierce and LT can audition the first two weeks for the rb2 role. By all accounts Kubiak is all in with rice


Eta: watch those RBs tonight against the saints
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by ShreveportSteamer
SFO/ORD/DFW/MSY/SHV/DCA/MHT
Member since Jun 2014
276 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:04 pm to
Kubiak and Mike Shannahan run similar offenses (and worked together for a decade) and have shown that they're not afraid to pound a rookie to a 1,000+ yard season a la Alfred Morris, Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson...

What separates Taliaferro from the other Ravens RBs is he's Kubiak's pick. Kubiak wanted him. With Rice being out and like you said Pierce having concussion issues I wouldn't be surprised if Taliaferro emerges as the main guy in this backfield. Rice wasn't all that last year either.

It's a long shot, I'll admit, but it wouldn't be totally new if Kubiak decides to just gun his rookie. Doesn't hurt that he gets 2 weeks as a test run. If I don't get him in drafts I'm definitely keeping my eye on him on the wire.
Posted by jumbo
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 4:16 pm to
I agree, LT poses the biggest threat to Rice. But I still think they are going to ride Rice hard this year.


- We forget Rice was nursing injuries last season (hip and thigh)

- We forget BAL is paying Rice $7m per (to be a backup?)

- He is down from 225 lbs to his rookie weight

- Rice scored 374 points in PPR leagues in 2011, a year in which BAL employed the zone block scheme, which Kubiak will bring there this season. For reference, Jam Charles scored 378 last season.

- Coach Harbaugh on Ray Rice at the end of 2013 season:

quote:

"My expectation for Ray Rice is to be one of the very best running backs in the National Football League," Harbaugh said Tuesday at his end-of-the-season news conference.

"That's the standard for Ray. The great thing about Ray is -- I just had this conversation with him this morning -- that's his standard for himself. The thing I love about him is he has a plan to make sure as his career extends here that he is that guy for a long period of time."

"Ray Rice fought through some things," Harbaugh said. "There were some issues he had with his legs that other players wouldn't have even played with. It's not who Ray is. I think he fought through it and did the best he could with where he was at. I'm very confident, when he says he's going to come back in the best shape of his life and be better than ever, I'm confident he's going to do exactly that."





- Gary Kubiak's RBs

quote:

Kubiak churns out 1,000-yard rushers out of his behind. Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson and Travis Henry are lesser known names that have accomplished the feat. Clinton Portis, Arian Foster and the great Terrell Davis have smashed 1,000 yards, and have done it multiple times with Davis topping 2,000. Neither of those were first round picks. Portis was the highest drafted and that in the second round. It proves that the system does not necessarily need the greatest talent to be successful.
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