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Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:23 am to
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without IDs currently are more likely to be minorities.


hispanic and muslim, ILLEGALS!!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:23 am to
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Statistically, it's possible, but the point should be moot since you said it doesn't happen anyway.


You're new to this conversation, so I'll lay it out slowly.

There are many types of voter fraud - e.g. registration fraud, mail-in fraud, and in-person fraud.

We have some amount of the first two of those, but almost none (31 out of over 1 Billion votes cast over 12 years per 1 look) of the third type - in-person voter fraud.

Voter ID laws only prevent this third type of fraud, in-person fraud, and are thus superfluous. They're a solution in search a problem, and server only to suppress minority vote. In no way do they prevent fraud (because the type of fraud they prevent doesn't exist in the US).

Clear now?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126819 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:23 am to
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BamaAtl
Are you literally retarded? Do you not understand what it means to cite a document?

Holy

ETA: I did the link for you. Damn you are lazy
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65466 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:23 am to
no time to read drivel.

post a quote of your point.

if you think this is racist you are a retard. go get a damn ID. yall act like a 4 year that doesn't get his/her way
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:24 am to
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braindeadboxer


You're going to have an especially bad night tonight when the train falls off of a cliff, aren't you?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26604 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:24 am to
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BamaAtl


Stick with what the appeal court actually said and stop lying. Would really help your credibility. As is, you look like a disingenuous liar and a hack.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86435 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:25 am to
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(31 out of over 1 Billion votes cast over 12 years per 1 look)
How would you know?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:25 am to
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Are you literally retarded


you haven't figured that out yet
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78512 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:26 am to
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What it likely does is suppress minority votes in Louisiana


Now you're just making it up to fit your racist narrative. There are black politicians all over this state. Dems run NOLA and Baton Rouge. We alternate Dem and republican governors.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 8:27 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126819 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:26 am to
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you haven't figured that out yet
Apparently not
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46601 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:27 am to
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"Democrats" haven't made this a racist issue, Republicans have.


Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77242 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:27 am to
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It's a shame that democrats have tried to make this a racist issue


It's a shame that people are idiots and believe them.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:28 am to
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Stick with what the appeal court actually said


Gladly!

quote:

A federal appeals court has struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law, holding that it was “passed with racially discriminatory intent.


quote:

"The record makes clear that the historical origin of the challenged provisions in this statute is not the innocuous back-and-forth of routine partisan struggle that the State suggests and that the district court accepted," Judge Diana Motz wrote on behalf of Judges James Wynn and Henry Floyd. "Rather, the General Assembly enacted them in the immediate aftermath of unprecedented African American voter participation in a state with a troubled racial history and racially polarized voting. The district court clearly erred in ignoring or dismissing this historical background evidence, all of which supports a finding of discriminatory intent."


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"We cannot ignore the record evidence that, because of race, the legislature enacted one of the largest restrictions of the franchise in modern North Carolina history," Motz added.


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"The district court clearly erred" when it found a lack of discriminatory intent and when it deemed North Carolina's interests in passing the law to be compelling, she wrote.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:28 am to
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and server only to suppress minority vote


Once again, why don't you want minorities to get an ID? Why is that such a huge problem?
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
864 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:29 am to
Here in Maryland I go up and tell them my name, they ask for my address and I give them that and then they give me my card to go vote. So the information I need to vote can be found on any piece of mail or in any white pages. Surely any rational person can see how this is open to fraud?

Unless of course someone wants that fraud. But here in Maryland the last poll has Hillary up 36, so it doesn't really affect us, and I'm sure it never happens in those precincts in PA where Romney didn't receive even one vote in 2012...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:29 am to
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(31 out of over 1 Billion votes cast over 12 years per 1 look)
How would you know?


Someone did the math
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:30 am to
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What it likely does is suppress minority votes in Louisiana

Now you're just making it up to fit your racist narrative.


No, I'm citing research
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62330 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:30 am to
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"Democrats" haven't made this a racist issue, Republicans have


yeah, ok.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86435 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:31 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:31 am to
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Once again, why don't you want minorities to get an ID?


I'd love for them all to get an ID, for free, whenever they want. That also includes making the precursor documents free.

Alas, Republicans aren't on board with that. In the absence of free IDs, I'm not a fan of using IDs as a substitute poll tax to prevent minority voting.
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