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re: Slate: The Democratic Establishment is Finished
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to GEAUXmedic
Bye Felica.
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We should blame all those people around the Clintons more than the Clintons themselves, and the Clintons themselves deserve a ridiculous amount of blame. Hillary Clinton was just an ambitious person who wanted to be president. There are a lot of people like that. But she was enabled. The Democratic establishment is a club unwelcoming to outsiders, because outsiders don’t first look out for the club. The Clintons will be gone now. For the sake of the country, let them take the hangers-on with them.
I thought watching them melt was glorious, watching them feast on each other will be atomic.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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24 hours ago i thought i'd be posting about the dead GOP, now it's the dead DEMs
Both are dead but the GOP had already died with Bush and the Romney disaster and has evolved into something else and risen from the ashes.
Now it's the Dems turn. While I still expect a turn further to the left, I hope their constituents start holding their party more accountable like the Republicans did.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
i don't really think the DEMs had a good option
who they have in the wings is also a big quesiton mark. Warren and Bernie are too old
Castro was the golden boy but it just seems like he's not going to materialize. he needed more face time for 4 more years in a Clinton admin. he also has authenticity problems (can't even speak spanish)
who they have in the wings is also a big quesiton mark. Warren and Bernie are too old
Castro was the golden boy but it just seems like he's not going to materialize. he needed more face time for 4 more years in a Clinton admin. he also has authenticity problems (can't even speak spanish)
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
from Wink's link
the red pill saved the United States
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Siyanda Mohutsiwa ?@SiyandaWrites 11h11 hours ago
Young men came to these online groups for tips on picking up girls & came out believing that it was up to them to save Western civilization
the red pill saved the United States
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Problem is, their base is pulling them way far left (like avowed socialist far left) and they are blind to the fact that the majority of the country is not going to embrace that and, God willing, never will.
The Young Voter Map is terrifying.
The Right should be focused on governing from their core-small government, economic freedom, individual liberty - and not only prove that it works, but they have to communicate successes well. They need a stellar marketing/communication plan over the next 4-8 years. They have to bridge the gap with the Latino vote, it's the only way conservatism will survive long term. My generation is totally in with Socialism, and would have voted for Bernie. Bernie would have won on the back of that vote.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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24 hours ago i thought i'd be posting about the dead GOP, now it's the dead DEMs
I'm not so sure dead is the right word. It's still to be seen how Trump can interact with the House and Senate to get any meaningful legislation through. Obamacare is done but in what meaningful way can it be corrected. I think there are going to be three major issues that could be contentious between Trump and Congress: Immigration, Spending, and International Policy. If he tries to hold to his immigration promises, he is going to hit some major road blocks in congress. Spending (including somewhat tax policy) is going to be awesome to watch. McConnell loves to harp on the deficit only to work some serious pork into his "battles" of spending bills. Interested to see how all the Republican deficit talk for the last eight years pans out with a clear path to fix it. International Policy is just a big question mark right now. Lindsay Graham and some of the others are going to be major pain in the asses if any of the Russia talk heats up. The Republican, in theory, should be able to run the score up big time but I'm wondering how well they will truly work with Trump. If poorly, the Dems could capitalize on it.
No matter what though, the Supreme Court will be conservative for a long, long time.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:02 pm to Freauxzen
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The Right should be focused on governing from their core-small government, economic freedom, individual liberty - and not only prove that it works, but they have to communicate successes well. They need a stellar marketing/communication plan over the next 4-8 years. They have to bridge the gap with the Latino vote
they need to tell the Evangelicals to get on board or get left behind
they must become more socially moderate/liberal. keep one or 2 topics (like abortion for the religious) and drop the other stuff. publicly punish anti-gay stuff and real racism. they have a new GOP and need to re-brand outwardly. if they meet the social liberals halfway, they have a much better point to display the super progressive whackos as outsiders. let the DEMs continue to coddle them and marginalize the extremists further
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:04 pm to Linkovich
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International Policy is just a big question mark right now.
to be fair, it's been one for almost exactly 15 years
Europe is going to be VERY interesting. Brexit came and now Trump. France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc may be moving more nationalist and pro-Western in the upcoming elections. if that happens it will help out foreign policy a great deal
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they must become more socially moderate/liberal. keep one or 2 topics (like abortion for the religious) and drop the other stuff. publicly punish anti-gay stuff and real racism. they have a new GOP and need to re-brand outwardly. if they meet the social liberals halfway, they have a much better point to display the super progressive whackos as outsiders. let the DEMs continue to coddle them and marginalize the extremists further
It's a must but some candidates cannot win their districts without the Evangelicals. It makes it tough for some of the GOP to stay right on small government and central on social issues.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they need to tell the Evangelicals to get on board or get left behind
Yup. I don't think this will be difficult. What choice would they have otherwise? They need to talk compromise and figure out a way to work through it. As a Catholic, I totally get it, but we have to take the world as is and figure out where to fight our battles. Outside of Abortion, I don't think any of the rest are worth it.
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they must become more socially moderate/liberal. keep one or 2 topics (like abortion for the religious) and drop the other stuff. publicly punish anti-gay stuff and real racism. they have a new GOP and need to re-brand outwardly. if they meet the social liberals halfway, they have a much better point to display the super progressive whackos as outsiders. let the DEMs continue to coddle them and marginalize the extremists further
Agreed.
But all the social stuff will go nowhere if they don't enact conservative economic policies, show that they work and get the word out. They have to start with the individual, with small businesses, and get that story to the Latino vote. Show economic freedom as a benefit to the.
The case against free money - welfare, living wages, higher minimums - must be proven as we reach unsustainable budget levels. Conservatives must win on this front. The problem - that case is TOUGH to prove. Free money is free money. The Right has a chance to change everything over the next 4-8 years.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Europe is going to be VERY interesting. Brexit came and now Trump. France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc may be moving more nationalist and pro-Western in the upcoming elections. if that happens it will help out foreign policy a great deal
But don't forget about all those Muslims and Commies...In seriousness, what's the backlash for him if is seen as cozy to Russia, doesn't hold his Muslim ban, etc. shite, where does he stand on NK/SK/China issues for that matter. And if he make Newt Gingrich Secretary of State, I can't imagine they will see eye to eye on some of the international issues.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:11 pm to Linkovich
it's going to be interesting for sure
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I was honestly surprised when Hillary ran because I thought the Dem leadership would say you had your chance, this is not your party anymore. But, they were too scared to stand up to the Clintons, I guess
They had a machine already built and a boatload of incoming $$. She was a decent choice IMO from a candidate perspective only. As a human, she is worse than pond scum.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:29 pm to AlxTgr
The state level dominance of the Republicans since the tea party is what has set up the Republicans to dominate the Democrats for years to come, and I feel it has been largely overlooked. The Republicans bench is so deep and they can continue to pull from the state legislatures, while the Dems will have to count on only a handful of promising national candidates.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:30 pm to saints5021
yeah who the DEMs have next is a big question
will they run another woman in 2020? it seems like getting in that "first" is a big deal to them
i would love nothing more than a solid/decent 4 years of Trump followed by a female GOP candidate
imagine the melt if the DEMs don't get that "first"
will they run another woman in 2020? it seems like getting in that "first" is a big deal to them
i would love nothing more than a solid/decent 4 years of Trump followed by a female GOP candidate
imagine the melt if the DEMs don't get that "first"
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:30 pm to Freauxzen
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blindside the GOP as well, I'm not sure that stays around as it is now.
If so, that makes a vote for him to be exceedingly well placed.
Many who wanted him wanted exactly that: tear down both sides of the aisle.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i would love nothing more than a solid/decent 4 years of Trump followed by a female GOP candidate
If he does the heavy lifting, does it well, and passes on the torch because he did what he set out to do quickly and set the stage for someone new, he would earn mega respect.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they must become more socially moderate/liberal. keep one or 2 topics (like abortion for the religious) and drop the other stuff. publicly punish anti-gay stuff and real racism.
This sounds like a job for... RAND PAUL
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