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re: Goldman Sachs NO LONGER ACCEPTING stop loss orders on Mexican Peso! (MAGA!)

Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:06 pm to
My friend works at Goldman in the Latin market... he must be fricking nuts right now
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:06 pm to
Kinda what I am referencing. Market drops and GS announcement. Interesting.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:11 pm to
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don't bring your fricking common sense here












That's actually not true at all.

The uncertainty is already baked in.

It's more likely that a client with a large peso stake decided to sell off after a two month high.
Posted by fooz
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:11 pm to


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:12 pm to
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Doesn't that chat show the peso getting stronger vs USD?
Yes, as the MSM keeps telling everyone that Hillary will win.
Yep.
The MSM is in full-throat.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:14 pm to
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My friend works at Goldman in the Latin market... he must be fricking nuts right now



I lived in Jersey City near the GS building he was going to be there to midnight eitherway
Posted by fooz
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:16 pm to
It's been gaining since 10/26 and started the downward trend on 11/3.

https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-mxn-chart
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:16 pm to
I don't trade currencies so I have ZERO insight as to Goldman's reasons for not accepting stop loss orders on the MXN.

But I do have pretty extensive experience in trading stocks.

And the only time I had a stop loss order killed by my broker (Schwab) was on a stock that was scheduled to report earnings after the market closed one trading day.

I put the stop loss order in to be executed in the 'after hours' trading (which I had done many times with no problems) just in case the company I owned the stock in had a big miss in earnings. I wanted to limit how much of a drop in that stock's price I would tolerate before the stock sold "automatically."

Schwab killed the stop loss order just before the market closed. I assumed they did that because they didn't want to be responsible for not being able to fill my order before the stock's price fell (quickly) below my stop loss limit price.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
Ay caramba!
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
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My friend works at Goldman in the Latin market... he must be fricking nuts right now


Just took a quick peak - pretty much all the LatAm currencies are down right now. The BRL is down more than the MXN.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Schwab killed the stop loss order just before the market closed. I assumed they did that because they didn't want to be responsible for not being able to fill my order before the stock's price fell (quickly) below my stop loss limit price.


I think this is your answer
Posted by Rhino5
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Schwab killed the stop loss order just before the market closed. I assumed they did that because they didn't want to be responsible for not being able to fill my order before the stock's price fell (quickly) below my stop loss limit price.

Yes. Money speaks first and everyone else follows. Man this may actually happen for trump.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:22 pm to
To sum up, markets usually rally if the incumbent is projected to win, and fall of the challenger is leading. This pattern held during Brexit even though the networks polled a stay victory. Markets have predicted the president correctly for like 50 years.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:26 pm to
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AbuTheMonkey
Can you explain this to me like I'm a lowly enlisted grunt. TIA
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Can you explain this to me like I'm a lowly enlisted grunt. TIA


Pretty much all the Latin American currencies took a sharp downturn this morning. The Colombian peso, Brazilian real, and Mexican peso are all down (the Colombian is way, way down).

I am not sure what happened, but the real and Colombian peso aren't really tied much to the U.S. election. There was most likely some sort of financial shock event through Latin America that is kicking these currencies down. The Mexican peso is actually not as down as most of the rest of Latin America. It could have been some sort of interest rate announcement, a debt ratings downgrade, or any number of things. I don't have Bloomberg, so I am not entirely sure.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:32 pm to
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I assumed they did that because they didn't want to be responsible for not being able to fill my order before the stock's price fell (quickly) below my stop loss limit price


It depends how this "ban" is worded. If they're no longer accepting stop-loss limit orders, that would be a bit harder to rationalize. When you place a stop limit order, you should understand that you're agreeing you only want it sold for $X or more dollars, and if they cannot get $X or more, you're accepting your fate to the downside and willing to ride it out until then.

Banning stop-loss market orders is a little more understandable. If they're getting significant stop-loss market orders, which I'm sure they are from clients wanting to limit their downside, they could be effectively preventing a ton of downside selling pressure at a specific price. If there is a large volume of stop-loss market orders @ 18.40, for instance, then they'll all become sell market orders at that time and could drive the price down tremendously.

FWIW, the NYSE, Nasdaq, and BATS no longer accept stop orders for this very reason. Retail clients can lose their tail because they don't understand the implications and often try to do it in lightly-traded companies with large bid/ask spreads where it can become an unmitigated disaster.
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:06 pm to
Any update on peso/currency markets? I don't have access to my account. TIA
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Any update on peso/currency markets? I don't have access to my account. TIA
18.3856 -0.1973 (-1.06%) Continuing to trend Clinton
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:14 pm to
Does this mean trump or clinton?
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
890 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 3:16 pm to
That doesn't appear to be trending Clinton. Looks like it broke thru $18.50 support level today. Hard to read anything one way or the other in this chart, however.
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