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re: Rhythm of War (Stormlight 4) UK cover art revealed

Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:06 pm to
Man I need to re-read the last one.


I prefer the idea of Adolin having to struggle to figure out how he fits in now that he’s no longer top dog, as mentioned above. Spices his arc up in a big way imo
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:19 pm to
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The romance is definitely cringey and over the top but I think that was partially the point for two dramatic teenagers in their first love acting ridiculous. There are points in the story where surrounding characters roll their eyes at them, etc. I don't really care for the romance and it isn't engaging but I feel like it is written more as "these two first love teenagers absurdity" moreso than something you are really supposed to get behind - that was just my take on it


Relationship wise it’s a step back from the more mature relationships of the after mentioned.. So much superficial cringe, poorly written superficial cringe at that. Nothing organically real or believable about it and when entire sections are devoted to it, I roll my eyes and try to move on. It’s just awful and I disliked being hit over the head with Sanderson writing it in a way that the marriage “makes sense.” It’s also the QB/Nerd trope and I loathe those the most. It’s also why I enjoy the characters of Joe Abercrombie more. Sanderson is elite level in world building and magic systems but his characterizations often disappoint to extremely distracting levels. Joe is elite at characters.

Being honest though, Shallan and Adolin both as characters ruin my enjoyment of the series. There’s absolutely nothing interesting about Adolin’s character. Not at all. And Sanderson could and should have done a better job of it but didn’t. He’s the “never struggled” Gary Stue and we’re three books in. Dude didn’t and likely won’t suffer any consequences for murdering Sadeas. Is the womanizing tool who gets settled down by the nerdy redhead. Cringe after cringe. And the terrible love triangle didn’t improve my opinion. I hate when writers default to this, particularly when it’s superficial and shallow.

Shallan is like Carrie Matheson in many respects. When her character isn’t fricking exhausting to read, her childishness gets in the way. Many of her splits are more interesting than the “real” version we’re lead believe is Shallan. “Real Shallan” or whatever the frick POV we spend the most time with, is aggravating.

I just can’t get through Oathbringer because of them. Which is a pity because I Kaladin and Hoid and bridge four. It’s many of the other mains I don’t like though which makes ensemble, multiple POV reads difficult to get through.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2019 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:05 pm to
I had to force myself to read the Shallan chapters and not skip them. It got harder the further I got.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:49 am to
Ya she isn't my cup of tea really - never had a huge problem with Adolin although he isn't my favorite. I think that is different than them being some cheap characters without any depth though.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:09 pm to
FYI if you like listening to mindless stuff while working Sanderson does some live Q&A sessions while signing books ( I love the way he works - easy to tell why he is so efficient at putting out books, interacting with fans, etc.).

A lot of nothing in there but also gives some really interesting insights to Wheel of Time, Stormlight, the Cosmere, writing tips, suggested reading for other series / movies / etc.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24032 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 9:28 am to
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Sanderson does some live Q&A sessions while signing books ( I love the way he works - easy to tell why he is so efficient at putting out books, interacting with fans, etc.).


Yeah, there's a whole group of fans that try to mine information from him during these things by asking specific questions concerning hunches.

Think it's over at the Coppermind/17th Shard website.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 3:22 pm to
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US Cover Art - I don't really pay attention to it but this kind of reminds of these books i read as a kid - The Boxcar Children - and what their covers would look like.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:32 pm to
A little annoying that Shallan is on the cover, I like the UK one better though
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:49 pm to
It looks great!
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8802 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 2:19 pm to
I hope that is Bridge Four on the cover, flying as knights radiant.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2019 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 10:48 am to
I read the released chapters over the weekend. It took me about 3 chapters to fall completely back into the world and now I can't wait for the release.

The Shallan POVs may become unbearable, imo
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 11:35 am to
Ya, she is definitely close to if not my least favorite main POV character in the major worldbuilding epics I've read.

I am holding out hope for a great character arc to bring her back though. in Wheel of Time i absolutely hated Egwene to the point that I would flip past her chapters at one point in my first read of the series. Going back on subsequent re-reads, I have started to really enjoy her story.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 11:37 am
Posted by safemode
Badstreet USA
Member since Aug 2016
639 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:18 pm to
I thought shallan reconciled her different personalities. i could be wrong though. i wonder what purpose rock will serve going forward. i thought lopez grew his arm back as well?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:55 am to
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I read the released chapters over the weekend. It took me about 3 chapters to fall completely back into the world and now I can't wait for the release.


Ditto. Read all 7 chapters that have been released so far yesterday.

Possibly a spoiler, so don't read further if you haven't read the released chapters:


























Interesting bit about why the windrunners can't increase their numbers beyond where they are at right now unless one of them dies.

Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:06 pm to
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I thought shallan reconciled her different personalities.

She did.
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i could be wrong though. i wonder what purpose rock will serve going forward.

He's still part of Bridge 4.
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i thought lopez grew his arm back as well?

Yep. The one armed Herdazian is no more.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:51 pm to
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He's still part of Bridge 4.


Not only that, his daughter wields shardplate and a shard bow.

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