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Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:59 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:59 am to
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Im still working on getting 3 down.


Man, do that first, before you listen to any of us lazy fricks.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 5:44 am to
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Are you using the one finger or the three finger method for the A?




I am using the 3 finger method


This configuration


This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 5:45 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 5:51 am to
I interested in the top 5 Chords for a beginner that you guys would start with.

I think Justin goes D, A, E, Amin, Emin

I am about to start working on E.

Also, at times I have checked out Marty Schwartz lessons on Youtube. I like that guys lessons too. He starts with Emin, Asus2 then A. The first two were easy to learn since Im just using 2 fingers. Also, those two were heavily used when he taught "wish you were here" except you had to use the two thinnest strings.

So what 4 or 5 would you think are most "important" or heavily used?


And Auggie, I am sitting in a chair but I honestly feel like I am too low. I am 6-1 and I think I would be better on a stool. I will try that tonight when I practice. Good thought





Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38652 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:07 am to
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So what 4 or 5 would you think are most "important" or heavily used?



G C D E A tie for 5th with F and Bm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:14 am to
E, G, C, A, D, F (major and minor)

If you can master those forms, most other chords are just moving those forms up and down the fretboard as bar chords.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 11:16 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:31 pm to
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I think Justin goes D, A, E, Amin, Emin

Thar's some reason to his madness


A D E .. happen to be the

1 4 5 ... chords; where A would be the root (or 1) and the others are the 4 and 5 chords (in the key of A)

C F G... also 1, 4 , and 5 - count them on your fingers
G C D .. notice these are also the 1, 4, and 5 chords (remember after G you start over with A.. G,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C...)
E A B... eggs and bacon (1,4,5)

And as soon as you get the A (1 chord), D (4 chord) E (5 chord) you'll be able to play an incredibly large volume of music. That 1-4-5 is the basic building block for western music. So if it was me I'd concentrate on making these three near automatic. Could of been G-C-D or C-F-G however I suspect he's got plenty of good reasons for this set.

If nothing more than these are going to be used make some barre chords that'll set you free to move all over the neck.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:30 pm to
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I am using the 3 finger method


I recommend learning the one finger method. Really frees you up to do other things moving forward and easier transitions to other formations
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27812 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:32 am to
It really doesn't matter which you learn first, as long as they are all part of the same group for playing in a certain key.
I suspect that Justin's selection of those specific chords, his lessons will lean towards bluesy material first.
He's got a lesson plan, so he's gonna teach it the way that he feels that he needs. He wants you to learn the chords for those old blues standards. Key of Amaj and Emaj were used a lot.

If it were my lesson plan, I would say Gmaj, Eminor, Cmajor, Dmajor, Aminor, Fmajor, because those would be used in the songs that I would teach first.

Of course, later on, you will learn to play any song, in any key you like. That's the goal. Justin just has his own place where he likes to start you out. It's all the same thing in the end.

Looks like Awestruck and myself, are pretty much telling you the same thing, but he explained it better than I did.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 1:12 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 6:21 am to
quote:

A D E .. happen to be the

1 4 5 ... chords; where A would be the root (or 1) and the others are the 4 and 5 chords (in the key of A)



Did i go back to school? :(

C F G... also 1, 4 , and 5 - count them on your fingers

Are we talking about planting my first finger then moving the others to get the other chords? Is that what you are refering to with the A (1 chord), D (4 chord) E (5 chord)
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 6:40 am to
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Did i go back to school? :( C F G... also 1, 4 , and 5 - count them on your fingers
kinda

If counting using fingers for key of A

1=A (thumb)
2
3
4=D (ring finger)
5=E (pinky)
6
7

There's 3 major, 3 minor chords, and 1 diminished or 7th (for a total of 7) for every key. Don't worry about those other spaces/chords for a little while longer; however they follow this sequence: Major minor minor Major Major minor diminished/7th.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 6:58 am
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:59 am to
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Did i go back to school?


Yes.Hopefully your learning never ends.

I'm self taught,so,I probably do everything wrong.But,I've been at it for 18 years.

When I started trying to play Songs that I liked,I started learning more Chords.

I've got a Chord Dictionary that I've relied on.It shows multiple ways to make the same Chord.

Have fun.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38652 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:00 am to
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Is that what you are refering to with the A (1 chord), D (4 chord) E (5 chord)


1 4 5 is a nomenclature for "steps" based on the root chord (key). You have to know the chord/note steps of the fret board which starts with E then F, G, A, B, C, D then back to E. Look at a diagram of the fret board to learn it. There are flats and sharps between the majors. So A chord to D chord to E chord = A is the root and so 1, to go to the D is 3 steps down so 3 steps added to the root of 1 = 4. E is 1 more step down so add that to 4 = 5. You are forming/playing the chords, the numbers just tell you how many steps down from the root chord.

G C D would be 1, 4, 5 also.

All this is not necessary for a beginner to know IMO although learning the fret board is a good thing to know.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 11:01 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27812 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:28 pm to
Probably for right now, it's better not to worry about any of the numbers stuff, and just learn the chords on the lesson plan. Once you know all of the basic Major and minor chords, then you will be ready to dive a bit deeper.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:39 pm to

Lanier... I'm sure you know about Ultimate-Guitar.com but here's another handy site TabTuner.

It allows you to cut and paste a set of tabs and then adjust them higher or lower into more comfortable keys to play or sing in. Enjoy!

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:46 pm to
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Lanier... I'm sure you know about Ultimate-Guitar.com but here's another handy site TabTuner.



I did not know about either of those. Thanks for the info
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5706 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:38 pm to
You can transpose songs on ultimate guitar. Just FYI.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27812 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:44 am to
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You can transpose songs on ultimate guitar. Just FYI.


or, you can just learn to do it yourself. It's pretty easy.
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:04 am to
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Probably for right now, it's better not to worry about any of the numbers stuff, and just learn the chords on the lesson plan. Once you know all of the basic Major and minor chords, then you will be ready to dive a bit deeper.


This. No need to overwhelm yourself with theory when still learning basic chord shapes.

Get to the point where you can enjoy just strumming different chords or play some basic songs and then start working on understanding music theory, the CAGED system, etc.

Here's a few resources for OP for some 'easy' songs to get started with. Once you've gotten to the point where you can play stuff like this fairly comfortably it may be time to start taking a look at understanding chord progressions:
Born Under a Bad Sign - YouTube riff lesson
Ultimate Guitar - Ain't No Sunshine (note: scroll over the chord with mouse and it'll show you the fingering)
Ultimate Guitar - Wagon Wheel
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