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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
Posted on 11/18/20 at 4:17 pm to BruslyTiger
Posted on 11/18/20 at 4:17 pm to BruslyTiger
sucks arse I love Dumas layout
Posted on 11/18/20 at 4:37 pm to LSUGolfman
What LSUgolfman said is correct. They want it to be a 9 hole course with greens like Beaver Creek. With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:52 am to ReeseWee
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With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.
Not sure if you are serious or not.
A short course with island greens or difficult water hazard challenges is not great for golf. As a coach with First Tee of Central Florida, Executive courses are the types of courses novice golfers, First Tee, and Jr. Golf need.
There is a great Par-3 course here, but it is ruined by one Par 3 that is virtually unplayable by a novice golfer. All water carry and no bail-out.
There can be a balance. I have played several amazing Par 3 courses anyone could play, and they were both creative and challenging at the same time.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:06 am to mikedatyger
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With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.
Not sure if you are serious or not.
A short course with island greens or difficult water hazard challenges is not great for golf. As a coach with First Tee of Central Florida, Executive courses are the types of courses novice golfers, First Tee, and Jr. Golf need.
I agree. There should be no water. Just fun slopes to play on and around. Minimal bunkering also. No need to add expense.
But they will need to have a lake of some sort to get the dirt needed. That's one of the bad things about flatland courses. With a good architect they can make it really fun and not a lost ball course.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:14 am to mikedatyger
I may get in trouble for this picture size. But, I am not seeing a course that is full of water that kids cannot learn on.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:20 am to lsu13lsu
As a beginner I was terrified to play 8, 14 or16 at Webb. Even that small ditch on 6 gave me trouble. The huge trap in front of the third green was a monster. 5 at City Park was a beast. But you buy cheap golf balls, and you keep plugging until you get better. That’s golf. Trial by fire.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:29 am to doubleb
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As a beginner I was terrified to play 8, 14 or16 at Webb. Even that small ditch on 6 gave me trouble. The huge trap in front of the third green was a monster. 5 at City Park was a beast. But you buy cheap golf balls, and you keep plugging until you get better. That’s golf. Trial by fire.
I cannot imagine learning to play golf in Louisiana or Florida and having a course ruined by one hole with water
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:57 am to lsu13lsu
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or Florida and having a course ruined by one hole with water
When you take your son out for one of his first golf experiences and he gets to a hole that he CANNOT play. What's the point? Have options. Over the water for better players. Bailout area for novice/beginner golfers. I just feel this specific course failed in its design for that hole.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:12 am to mikedatyger
Already been there. We try the hole every time. He hits it in water. I bring a few shag balls and he tries and tries. We both look forward to him clearing it. He will and it’ll be awesome. It doesn’t ruin the round or course.
ETA: Pretty sure under 7 years old in a tournament hole can be shortened to 50 yards. You should be able to find a 50 yard distance on MOST any hole without crossing water.
ETA: Pretty sure under 7 years old in a tournament hole can be shortened to 50 yards. You should be able to find a 50 yard distance on MOST any hole without crossing water.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:43 am to lsu13lsu
I grew up at Shenandoah and the first hole was a short par four that you hit it to a lake and then hit it on the green over the lake. You could lay up around the lake or you could swing for the green. On 2 you hit it over water, but the water ended a few yards from the tee it seemed. I remember being a kid and struggling through there. Now I don't even know that I would even notice the water there. Any water can be a nuisance for a beginner.
I'd like to see no bunkers. A greenside bunker for a good player is better than a tight lie. For a bad player, a tight lie is better than a bunker. Anything that can bring the good player and bad player closer together is a good thing.
I'd like to see no bunkers. A greenside bunker for a good player is better than a tight lie. For a bad player, a tight lie is better than a bunker. Anything that can bring the good player and bad player closer together is a good thing.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 11:05 am to The Johnny Lawrence
I just don't see Greenwood Park having a bunch of island greens etc and a beginners nightmare.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:55 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
Use to be a member there. One was a good joke snd yes it would be a monster hole for a beginner. So would 11, 12 and 13.
On 16 you’d be in everybody’s backyard! Shenandoah was long back in the 70s and early 80s
On 16 you’d be in everybody’s backyard! Shenandoah was long back in the 70s and early 80s
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:15 pm to doubleb
I was a kid in the 90s. I didn't venture to the back side very often. Mostly played the front and the 7-8-9 loop with my old man.
Was a great time. I just remember I took a huge number in the father son tournament one year because my dad was confident j could carry the water on 1. I couldn't.
Was a great time. I just remember I took a huge number in the father son tournament one year because my dad was confident j could carry the water on 1. I couldn't.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:25 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
7 was a decent four, but no big issues. 8 was a nice par three with no big problems in front of the green and 9 was a fun dogleg four and you could probably take as shortcut around that severe dogleg. It would be hard to lose your ball. Lol
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