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Recommendations for a flowering perennial in a spot with mid-morning to mid-afternoon sun?

Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:31 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:31 am
Shady spot early and later in the day. I have knockout roses there now but they haven’t done well so I am wanting to replace them.

Thanks in advance!
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4643 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 6:03 am to
Azaleas
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31676 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 7:43 am to
Frost proof gardenia
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7916 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:07 am to
How many hours of sun? 5 to 6? Honestly if that's the case knock roses where my first suggestion. Have you thinned the roses out during the fall/winter? Have you hit them with any fertilizer?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:11 am to
Thanks everyone. My guess is the spot is getting about 3-4 hrs full sun.

I haven’t used fertilizer. They look spindly and aren’t throwing off any blooms right now.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:29 am to
Yesterday today and tomorrow (brunfelsia)
Azaleas
Camellia sassanqua
Camellia japonica
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Thanks everyone. My guess is the spot is getting about 3-4 hrs full sun. I haven’t used fertilizer. They look spindly and aren’t throwing off any blooms right now.

3 to 4 hours of midday sun would be considered “partial shade” so look for plants in that category. Knockout roes need 8 hours of full sun to put on a flowering show, I would guess your roses were tall and spindly.

You want evergreen woody shrubs, herbaceous perennials, ....? That would help to narrow down choices. Conservation Piece azalea is an LSU AgCenter Superplant that blooms 2 to 3 times a year - spring and fall. Certain varieties of hydrangea could be considered, perhaps Penny Mac or Limelight (again both AgCenter Superplants)
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:19 am to
Good thoughts. I am liking the gardenia advice since I already have a bunch of hydrangeas.

Thanks again everyone! Very helpful board.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I am liking the gardenia advice


Frostproof Gardenia is also a LSU AgCenter Superplant, just remember they like “acidic” soil.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5095 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:34 am to
Watch the Brunfelsia if you have pets or small children. It’s a member of the nightshade family and highly poisonous. Nice blooming plant for the conditions you described and the flowers actually change colors.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24944 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:00 pm to
do you want s shrub there year around or do you care if it dies off in the winter only to come back in the spring?

I was going to suggest a peonies.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

do you want s shrub


Not really, looking for flowers that come back each year. But the peonies look nice.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Not really, looking for flowers that come back each year. But the peonies look nice.

Peonies are lovely, but they hate heat. You won't get them to thrive or flower in climate zone 8b or hotter; ie, they'll do okay in DC & northward, but not in the coastal lowland south.

If you don't want shrubs, consider old fashioned shasta daisies. They multiply readily, put on a big show of blooms in late spring/early summer, are drought tolerant, shade tolerant, and pretty indestructible once established. I had a patch that bloomed & multiplied in the shade underneath a mature water oak tree.

If you live where it's cool enough for peonies, also consider hostas, lily of the valley, and bleeding heart.
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