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Explosive possessed by Stephen Paddock may have been used in NYC bombing

Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am
probably just a coinkadink

lone wolf

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An explosive compound like the one found in Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock’s car and home is believed to have been used last year in an alleged terrorist bombing in New York City.
Authorities say they recovered an undisclosed amount of the compound known as Tannerite from Paddock’s home in Mesquite and 50 pounds from his car parked at Mandalay Bay, where he used high-powered firearms to mow down concertgoers at the adjacent Route 91 Harvest festival on Sunday.
Police have not said why the 64-year-old Paddock possessed Tannerite, which is unregulated and legally used by marksmen to create targets that emit a small cloud of smoke when they are struck. Authorities also found ammonium nitrate, another ingredient that can be used to build bombs, in his vehicle at the site of the shooting.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives notes that products like Tannerite are binary, meaning they consist of two separate components that are inert when separated. “But when mixed, they are high explosives and should be treated with caution and in accordance with manufacturer’s instructions,” the agency noted in a 2015 safety advisory.
An explosive possessed by Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock may have been used in an NYC bombing. Authorities say they recovered the compound known as Tannerite from Paddock’s home in Mesquite and his car parked at Mandalay Bay. Police have not said why the 64-year-old possessed Tannerite, which is unregulated. Authorities also found ammonium nitrate in his vehicle. It can also be used to build bombs. Tannerite apparently was used in a September 2016 bombing in New York's Chelsea neighborhood that injured 31 people. Authorities later arrested Ahmed Rahami in connection with that bombing.

Tannerite apparently was used in a September 2016 bombing in New York City’s Chelsea neighborhood that injured 31 people. Various news accounts at the time quoted unidentified federal officials as saying that residue of the product was found at the scene.
Authorities later arrested Ahmed Rahami, an Afghan immigrant, and charged him with federal terrorism and weapons offenses in connection with that bombing and two others in New Jersey.
According to prosecutors, Rahami had posted videos praising a former leader of the al-Qaida terrorist group and decrying U.S. military actions in countries like Afghanistan and Syria on social media prior to his arrest.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to
All you baws that have been playing around with tannerite are about to be put on a list.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to
I was pretty shocked when I saw a huge tannerite display at Academy Sports a few months ago. Crazy anyone can go in and buy that stuff.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:45 am to
Tannerite is commonly available over the open market and unregulated, so this is a stretch attempting to tie his possession of it to an attack that happened utilizing the same substance...

If he had had a couple of pressure cookers in his room would that have tied him to the Boston Marathon bombing?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20378 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:46 am to
Just a matter of time before Tannerite is banned. Too many You Tube videos of people putting massive amounts of this stuff into barrels and blowing up hogs and other stuff.

Tannerite was doomed a few years ago but just didn't know it. Buy it while you can.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:46 am to
Well.


The Muslim prediction came true
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:47 am to
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The Muslim prediction came true
Link?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:48 am to
Yeah. This is interesting but nowhere close to proving a connection. Is there chemical variability with tannerite that might prove when and where it was produced?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

ammonium nitrate
Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79083 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

is believed to have been used last year in an alleged terrorist bombing in New York City.


Refresh my memory? What happened?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Is there chemical variability with tannerite that might prove when and where it was produced?


I am sure there has to be some but I am not certain if it could be traced since it is unregulated. I would expect it to be off the market shortly...
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?



Farmers use it all of the time, but I don;t know what they have to go through to obtain it.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62985 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:50 am to
This is the first time I've seen Tannerite used or mentioned in a situation other than some good ole baws blowing shite up for fun in fields.

I don't think this is the connection you're looking for.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:51 am to
I'd google it but I don't want the FBI barging in at 2am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Is there chemical variability with tannerite that might prove when and where it was produced?
I wonder the same.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?


Not sure the quantity but yes it is tracked and regulated. Many small farmer moved away from it because of the list and reporting issues...
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?



I think anyone can still buy it, but there are limits. I think over 25 pounds there's a background check and a waiting period.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20378 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?


Extremely regulated and much much much harder to get. Most agricultural uses have been replaced by Urea. Urea is used to make diesel and it is also a good fertilizer. Urea was really pushed forward by the U.S. government after the OKC bombing. About $1.29 per pound so pretty cheap.

Urea cannot be used to create an explosive.

Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7719 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Highly regulated and hard to get without a license or a business? right?


Farmers use it all of the time, but I don;t know what they have to go through to obtain it.



I bought 1 lb. of ammonium nitrate from the local feed and seed to put on my garden corn and I had to sign my name on a form to get it.
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