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re: The Wheel of Time -- Season 2 coming in September -- Wise Ones Thread (Book Spoilers)
Posted on 7/22/22 at 4:44 pm to luvdoc
Posted on 7/22/22 at 4:44 pm to luvdoc
Yeah, I get that it can be hard to believe this type of stuff but you can get clues from reading between the lines on these things and usually its not that out of whack with the end result.
For example, there were similar whispers before season 1 that were quite negative and ended up panning out so the fact that these same whispers are much more positive for season 2 does mean a little more than you might think. Also, the leaks are usually coming from people working on the show that arent necessarily committed to the show in any real way so they have no incentive to lie about these things. And usually if things are going poorly, they want to leak it and get out ahead of it to not be associated so strongly with it.
As to the specifics, I have heard the production values are supposed to be alot better for season 2. They got an expanded budget for season 2, plus they have much more time to do the VFX and stuff. Season 1 was rushed out by Amazon because they wanted a trial run for the Lord of the Rings show, which is why The Wheel of Time exists at all. Amazon used it as a training ground for directors, production staff, and just a general feel of doing a big fantasy tv show.
As for the source material question, thats more of a subjective thing. Of season 1's many problems, not following the source material closely enough would not rank in my top 10. The ultimate story of season 1 tracks pretty closely to book 1, with a couple of brief exceptions to flesh out certain story beats. But anyway, I would assume season 2 will probably follow season 1 from a structure standpoint. But thats pure speculation.
And while this board is very out on the show, the WOT fandom at large is much more split. There are still huge numbers of WOT fans who love the show, another group that were pretty meh on the show, and a group that hated it. Individual boards have a tendency to become hive mind groupthinks about various shows or whatever, so it depends on where you look.
For example, there were similar whispers before season 1 that were quite negative and ended up panning out so the fact that these same whispers are much more positive for season 2 does mean a little more than you might think. Also, the leaks are usually coming from people working on the show that arent necessarily committed to the show in any real way so they have no incentive to lie about these things. And usually if things are going poorly, they want to leak it and get out ahead of it to not be associated so strongly with it.
As to the specifics, I have heard the production values are supposed to be alot better for season 2. They got an expanded budget for season 2, plus they have much more time to do the VFX and stuff. Season 1 was rushed out by Amazon because they wanted a trial run for the Lord of the Rings show, which is why The Wheel of Time exists at all. Amazon used it as a training ground for directors, production staff, and just a general feel of doing a big fantasy tv show.
As for the source material question, thats more of a subjective thing. Of season 1's many problems, not following the source material closely enough would not rank in my top 10. The ultimate story of season 1 tracks pretty closely to book 1, with a couple of brief exceptions to flesh out certain story beats. But anyway, I would assume season 2 will probably follow season 1 from a structure standpoint. But thats pure speculation.
And while this board is very out on the show, the WOT fandom at large is much more split. There are still huge numbers of WOT fans who love the show, another group that were pretty meh on the show, and a group that hated it. Individual boards have a tendency to become hive mind groupthinks about various shows or whatever, so it depends on where you look.
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 5:18 pm to Raistlins Apprentice
Thanks for fleshing that out, RA
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:16 pm to Raistlins Apprentice
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For example, there were similar whispers before season 1 that were quite negative and ended up panning out so the fact that these same whispers are much more positive for season 2 does mean a little more than you might think.
I hope you are right and season 2 is much better and would assume Amazon would only greenlight season 3 if they felt it was.
The really good thing from all of this imo is that Sanderson is getting an inside view on what it is to make a TV show. I don't' know if you heard Sanderson's podcast from a couple weeks ago. He said that all of Hollywood has coming knocking on his door this year.
I'm both happy and worried as I'm afraid it's going to seriously derail his writing schedule. He said Stormlight 5 has been pushed to 2024 because of this.
The good thing is Sanderson will want alot of control over whatever adaption(s) he agrees to. I love his quote that, "Hollywood doesn't know what to do when you don't need their money".
It's great that he is in the financial position to say no, if they don't agree to his demands for creative and writing control.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 2:25 pm to Raistlins Apprentice
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And while this board is very out on the show, the WOT fandom at large is much more split. There are still huge numbers of WOT fans who love the show, another group that were pretty meh on the show, and a group that hated it. Individual boards have a tendency to become hive mind groupthinks about various shows or whatever, so it depends on where you look.
The WOT Fandom is very split indeed. A lot of the positive momentum is coming from the DragonCon/Dragonmount folks whose livelihoods are dependent on Wheel of Time being news worthy. It is what it is, but I do wish they wouldn't shill as hard for it.
As far as story deviation not being a major problem, I would argue that the deviation is what led to decisions that made the overall product worse.
I'll still watch S2, but I do not think it will be good and I have zero faith in Rafe to even do a competent job.
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