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A Michigander's Perspective on Mel Tucker

Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:22 am
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12747 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:22 am
I'm not into BDSM, so I'm not a UM fan. Just a former resident of the state, so I know the hierarchy for College Football.

Mel doesn't have access to the best guys. In-State, those good players are going to UM first. Regionally, they're going to UM, tOSU, and ND first, then to MSU, PSU, and Wisky.

Point being, he isn't getting the best talent, and it's not his fault.

So if he goes 9-3/10-2 his second season, he's doing a lot right in getting the players ready.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16219 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:23 am to
Good for Sparty. Sign your extension Mel
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
4156 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:27 am to
Cool. Hope he does well at Michigan State. Still don’t want LSU hiring him.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:32 am to
Mel is a great coach and his time for a big time program is coming. But if it’s true LSU is about to pay $100 million it’s not going to be to a guy because he beat a Michigan program that hasn’t been relevant since Carr. Sorry.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72418 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:50 am to
Mark Dantonio had several 11 win seasons at Michigan St.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:52 am to
Mel isn’t a bad coach, but I do not want LSU hiring the guy. There’s probably 10 guys I would take over Mel Tucker.
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
3664 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:03 am to
Wow. Mel isn’t my first,second, third, or fourth choice but the list stops there. If you have 10 guys ahead of him either (a) you don’t know football (b) your list has unrealistic names on it.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25948 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:05 am to
Mel also doesn’t have a tough schedule...
Posted by MichiganTiger
Where Global Warming is Welcomed!
Member since Dec 2004
7886 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 6:57 am to
You are spot on about recruiting in Michigan. The same is true for Saban and it’s why he quickly bolted to Louisiana. He was competing with Notre Dame, Michigan, and Ohio State for the best of the best. Not a great situation. Whoever comes into Louisiana knows they are hitting the gravy train when it comes to recruiting.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55208 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:25 am to
Hi Mel.
Posted by Ocardowin
Member since Dec 2011
1345 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:36 am to
Honestly, there’s no unique perspective that comes from living in proximity to where Tucker coaches, with all the data and sources available out there in 2021.

Not to be rude, but it’s sort of like trying to change someone’s politics by saying “a Washington DC residents perspective on Joe Biden.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466478 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Mel isn’t my first,second, third, or fourth choice but the list stops there. If you have 10 guys ahead of him either (a) you don’t know football (b) your list has unrealistic names on it.

Let me try

Riley

Aranda
Campbell

Jimbo
Cristobol
Kiffin
Freeze
Napier

That's 8 without even thinking.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31881 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 8:05 am to
Jimmy Carter would have made a great neighbor, doesn’t mean I wanted him running my country.
Posted by Eauxld Geauxld
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2005
1312 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:15 am to
.......and it would be the dumbest hire in the history of college football. He has had 1 good year as a head coach and we are going to spend $100 million based on 1 year? God I hope not.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72418 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Honestly, there’s no unique perspective that comes from living in proximity to where Tucker coaches, with all the data and sources available out there in 2021.


It reminds me of the guy who said he was at a game as if it made him more credible than all of us watching the same said game on TV.
Posted by midwest17
Member since Nov 2021
3 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:30 am to
MSU is not the job in 2021 it was in 1999. Saban was smart to leave at the time. Umich owned the state, owned MSU, MSU didn't have the revenue or facilities to keep up and LSU was just a FAR better destination. FF to 2021 and that has largely changed. MSU's athletic department revenue (thanks largely to TV deals and BTN) is very close and MSU facilities have vastly improved and are about to get better.

To address the UMich comparison nonsense. They have a brand, wings on their helmets, and a large albeit uncomfortable stadium. They have never appeared in a Big Ten Championship game in the 10 year existence, MSU has appeared in 3 and won 2, they have never appeared in the playoff (MSU has), and MSU has won 10/14 head to head. On the recruiting front currently Tucker has a higher rated class and has 5 in state guys committed all with UMich offers.

Bottom line MSU is about to back the Brinks truck up for Tucker and it's a huge risk for them so I don't blame LSU for not wanting to throw Saban money at him. But to say he doesn't have the resources to win shows how much you're living in the past. UMich hasn't been relevant since the Clinton administration. Umich wants LSU to lure Tucker away because they fear him and what he is building.

LSU is still a better job than MSU, just the gap isn't as wide as it was in '99.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83172 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 9:35 am to
If Tucker is hired then we know the new LSU president flexed
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2646 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:09 am to
I think great coach is a huge stretch. Saban, Bowden, Robinson, Johnson, and Bryant, are or were great coaches. Tucker has had one decent season. He should not even be in the conversation for the LSU job.
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