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Are you awake yet? CDC study on natural immunity ... is a joke.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 2:45 pm
Zerohedge - CDC says vaccine is better than natural immunity
Just look at the size of the studies ... anyone with a background in statistics won't "follow the science" of the CDC ...
The CDC, er former Pfizer executives be like:
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Ever since Israeli researchers found in that naturally acquired immunity from a previous COVID-19 infection is 13x more effective than Pfizer's vaccine at stopping the Delta variant in nearly 800,000 patients, US officials have been absolutely silent on the topic of natural immunity when it comes to making policy.
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That all changed on Friday, when a group of CDC scientists - looking at just 7,000 adults who were hospitalized with Covid-19, concluded that vaccines provide stronger protection against hospitalization than natural immunity.
Just look at the size of the studies ... anyone with a background in statistics won't "follow the science" of the CDC ...
The CDC, er former Pfizer executives be like:
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:03 pm to AmishSamurai
Political activists in lab coats spouting utter nonsense.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:25 pm to AmishSamurai
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Hospitalized patients who weren’t vaccinated but had been previously infected with Covid were about five times more likely to test positive for the infection than people who had been vaccinated, according to the CDC study. The CDC has long recommended that people get vaccinated even if they have already had Covid-19. -Bloomberg
What does this even mean?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:26 pm to AmishSamurai
Totally fabricated finding from the CDC
They should be hung on our Tinnemen Square they will build in DC.
They should be hung on our Tinnemen Square they will build in DC.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:29 pm to David_DJS
My mom had COVID in September and just asked her doctor if she should get the booster (She’s 75).
He laughed and said no.
He laughed and said no.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:29 pm to David_DJS
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were about five times more likely to test positive for the infection than people who had been vaccinated
Another solid catch.
Seems like "the benefit" is you won't test positive if you're vaccinated ... which doesn't seem like a benefit if you've actually caught the Rona.
Someone remind me again on how the unvaxxed are the superspreaders. Using "science" of course ...
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:55 pm to AmishSamurai
The data has factored in the following which makes it clear as mud:
Perhaps a better question the CDC should answer is why are 6,378 vaccinated in the hospital with Covid like illness?
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* Odds ratios were adjusted for age, geographic region, calendar time (days since January 1, 2021), and local virus circulation (percentage of SARS-CoV-2 positive results from testing within the counties surrounding the facility on the date of the hospitalization) and balanced using inverse weights on characteristics that differed between the two groups (calculated separately for each odds ratio model) using facility characteristics, sociodemographic characteristics, and underlying medical conditions. Cardiovascular disease was also adjusted in the main model and in the model for Pfizer-BioNTech. Any likely immunosuppression was also included in the model for Moderna. Neuromuscular and respiratory conditions were also adjusted in the model for adults aged =65 years. Number of days since previous infection or completion of vaccination, instead of calendar time, was adjusted in the model within the stated secondary analysis.
† Full vaccination was defined as receipt of the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna mRNA vaccine =14 days before the index test date.
Perhaps a better question the CDC should answer is why are 6,378 vaccinated in the hospital with Covid like illness?
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:59 pm to AmishSamurai
You should actually read the study. Talk about cherry picked data to tell your story. They got real specific and threw out anything that would skew their results the wrong way.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:08 pm to AmishSamurai
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Previous infection was ascertained based on SARS-CoV-2 testing from rapid antigen tests or molecular assays (e.g., real-time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction) performed before mRNA vaccination and =14 days before admission
Lolzy.
They used rapid antigen tests as a positive Covid.
They won’t accept a negative rapid antigen as a confirmation of being Covid free. But they will accept it as a verification that natural immunity doesn’t work.
LINK
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:09 pm to AmishSamurai
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Seems like "the benefit" is you won't test positive if you're vaccinated ... which doesn't seem like a benefit if you've actually caught the Rona.
It’s restricted to patients 90 days after vaccination and before 180 days have passed after vaccination. Which should tell us everything we need to know about the vaccination.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:25 pm to AmishSamurai
Had the China flu in January. I got my yearly bloodwork done two weeks ago and asked for antibody test, still have them, 10 months later. frick them and their shitty vaccine.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:25 pm to TheCheshireHog
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They got real specific and threw out anything that would skew their results the wrong way
Yep! Just like how the clinical trials were designed only measure Covid cases that met certain criteria. They are adept at presenting the data in the light of their choosing, knowing that most people will not be able to take the time to read through all the BS. And of course the media will be the mouthpiece for whatever narrative they want to push.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:28 pm to AmishSamurai
So Vaxed people hospitalized with covid-like symptoms are less likely to actually have covid...
So what can we conclude? Maybe vaxed people become more likely to get a bad Flu?
Looking at the actual paper: LINK
So they have 6x as many fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to those with natural immunity... I think they might have drawn the wrong conclusion!
So what can we conclude? Maybe vaxed people become more likely to get a bad Flu?
Looking at the actual paper: LINK
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During January 1–September 2, 2021, a total of 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-19–like illness were identified; 139,655 (69.4%) patients were hospitalized after COVID-19 vaccines were generally available to persons in their age group within their geographic region. Molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2 was performed for 94,264 (67.5%) patients with COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations. Among these patients, 7,348 (7.8%) had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result =14 days before hospitalization and met criteria for either of the two exposure categories: 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated persons, and 6,328 were among fully vaccinated and previously uninfected patients (Table 1).
So they have 6x as many fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to those with natural immunity... I think they might have drawn the wrong conclusion!
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:32 pm to AmishSamurai
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Another solid catch.
Seems like "the benefit" is you won't test positive if you're vaccinated ... which doesn't seem like a benefit if you've actually caught the Rona.
Someone remind me again on how the unvaxxed are the superspreaders. Using "science" of course ...
AND, they only test hospitalized vaxxers, and even then, they test them at 28 cycles. Nonvaxxed are tested all the time without being hospitalized, and then they are tested using 40 cycles.
This means, just by the testing, nonvaxxed have about a 75% greater chance of testing positive than vaxxed.
The testing is complete and utter dogshit.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:42 pm to AmishSamurai
The terminology you're looking for is
"statistically significant" and it seems to me that the 800K trumps the 7K study.
"statistically significant" and it seems to me that the 800K trumps the 7K study.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:55 pm to Daequalizer
Yeah, I have a math degree. My English grades were poor. Lol.
The sample size comparison alone makes the entire paper crap in relation to the Israeli study.
The sample size comparison alone makes the entire paper crap in relation to the Israeli study.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:56 pm to AmishSamurai
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CDC study on natural immunity ... is a joke.
The CDC is a joke!
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:59 pm to AmishSamurai
Gotcha. Now the vaccine keeps you from getting COVID.
Posted on 10/29/21 at 5:01 pm to AmishSamurai
Uhm...... exposure to the ‘vaccine’ and to live virus create the SAME antibodies. Exposure to live virus also creates antibodies to another 86% of protein which is NOT a part of the vaccine spike protein.
They are lieing, again
They are lieing, again
Posted on 10/29/21 at 5:15 pm to OccamsStubble
I’d rather me and my family die than bow down to fascists - somethings are worth dying for - freedom is one of them.
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