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re: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:23 am to AmericanPsycho99
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:23 am to AmericanPsycho99
It seems you want to have a debate about whether the vaccines have any efficacy at all. That’s a straw man, since no one argues they are useless. The debate lies in their relative efficacy compared to covid death rates, particularly in children, and if the potentially side affects override that efficacy for many people. The freedom Americans are being asked to surrender isn’t justified by this pandemic.
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:36 am to Vacherie Saint
I fail to see how it's a straw man.
The efficacy of the vaccines are continually being questioned on this board and someone needs to push back against the narrative that they don't work. A thread with the title '83% of COVID deaths were among the fully vaccinated past month in the UK' isn't talking about relative efficacy - it's trying to push the false narrative that the vaccines don't work. It's clear to anybody though that they do.
Not once has someone mentioned relative efficacy compared with COVID death rates, which would be a different discussion all together.
The efficacy of the vaccines are continually being questioned on this board and someone needs to push back against the narrative that they don't work. A thread with the title '83% of COVID deaths were among the fully vaccinated past month in the UK' isn't talking about relative efficacy - it's trying to push the false narrative that the vaccines don't work. It's clear to anybody though that they do.
Not once has someone mentioned relative efficacy compared with COVID death rates, which would be a different discussion all together.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Plenty of people do.
That’s a straw man, since no one argues they are useless.
quote:That's a reasonable question - and the answer appears to be: whatever negative effects of the vaccine you are most worried about would seem to be even worse for an actual natural infection.
, and if the potentially side affects override that efficacy for many people.
For children, I think it's fair to say that it's just not that important of a decision for them. They'll be fine either way. It likely comes down to who they will be around - like an elderly relative or whatever.
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