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re: At least McCaffery runs hard on every play

Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 11:19 pm to
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has no other RB consistently put up All purpose yardage and Touchdowns at the rate Kamara has.


Plenty would in the version of the Saints offense since he's been here.

It's not winning football and it comes to light when we get in the playoffs. It takes an extremely accurate all time great qb to pull off. Why dink and dunk 3-5 yard passes to your rb when you can stretch the field. Saints receivers have been shitty the entire time Kamara has been here so the ball is forced to him.


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But yeah....system or something.


Kamara has missed 2 games in his Saints career.

What were Lat Murray numbers in those games?

150 yards 2 tds.
160 yards 2 tds.

It's the fricking system, but I guess Lat Murray is an all time great also.

Question: If you replicate every single run/route that Kamara has had with someone like Dalvin Cook, in the Saints offense do you believe his production would be less? Do you think if Joe Mixon ran behind a better line that his numbers wouldn't be better?
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 11:30 pm
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7643 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:31 am to
So you have moved the goal posts so much your argument now is

That the offensive system that has been in place since 2006 has only changed since Kamara got here hmm it's almost like it changed to fit the back.

I could shoot holes in every argument you have all day. but what's the point? you'll keep moving the goal posts and digging yourself a deeper hole have fun dying on that hill.

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Saints receivers have been shitty the entire time Kamara has been here so the ball is forced to him.



MT13 got here a year before Kamara...But I know I know outside of him (see I moved them for you)



Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:18 am to
I've said the same argument in every single post and you haven't responded to it one time. Which is why I have asked if you can read.

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That the offensive system that has been in place since 2006 has only changed since Kamara got here hmm it's almost like it changed to fit the back.


Has Drew Brees arm strength changed or not? I already know you won't answer that question.

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could shoot holes in every argument you have all day. but what's the point? you'll keep moving the goal posts and digging yourself a deeper hole have fun dying on that hill.



I asked you about specific players above, did you answer? Nope.

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MT13 got here a year before Kamara...But I know I know outside of him (see I moved them for you)



Do you know what that s at the end of receivers mean?
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
574 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:34 pm to
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You're a moron if you don't think the qb has any effect on a rb getting goal line touches.

Also you're also a moron if you don't think the scheme has anything to do with a rbs usage in the pass game.

Put it this simple post Kamara numbers with and without Brees and go from there.



I think the only moron in this thread is this guy


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dj30
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:46 pm to
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I think the only moron in this thread is this guy


Just not blinded by homerism and know football.
Posted by PurpleKnight88
Laplace, LA
Member since Jan 2009
856 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:02 pm to
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You're a moron if you don't think the qb has any effect on a rb getting goal line touches.


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Also you're also a moron if you don't think the scheme has anything to do with a rbs usage in the pass game.


You're simply a moron no if's about it.
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
479 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:38 pm to
I just read every one of dj30’s posts and all I can think about is the academic decathlon scene from Billy Madison.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82298 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:47 pm to
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Please don’t even mention Nose Ring’s name in the same breath as Run-CMC.

One is an elite back, the other is just cashing paychecks.


Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:06 am to
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You're simply a moron no if's about it.


The numbers are the numbers and not a single person has been able to refute a single thing I have said. Facts are, Kamara numbers are not what they are when Brees isn't playing. He's not currently rated in the top 30 backs per pff and he's damn sure not a top 10 weapon in this league.
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
574 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 9:52 am to
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he's damn sure not a top 10 weapon in this league.


It's better to have people think you're a moron than to speak and remove all doubt.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9065 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:02 am to
"Somebady else" barely misses games and is smart about when to fight and when to concede.

I'd take 17 games of 75-110 All Purpose Yards per game than 5-10 games of 150 yards per game.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:11 am to
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Unlike somebody else


CMac is missing whole seasons bud. LOL. The frick you talking about?
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7343 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:11 am to
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Fights for yardage and not afraid to take a hit


Some of yall are hopeless. Kamara is so successful precisely because he runs the way he runs.

That run week 1 that was technically a TD pass where he waited, waited, waited, found a hole and got into the end zone, do you have any idea how rare that level of patience and subsequent acceleration is? Do you know how fast these people are moving, and how genuinely insane it is that he has the ability to sit back, wait, think, pick his move, and THEN make it? What do you want, some jitterbug like Guice back there not knowing what the best move is so he spins up the middle and gets trashed for a 2 yard loss?

Kamara is playing a role right now, and he's playing it very well. His between the tackle running is not nearly what his open field running is, but it's still better than almost any other back out there.

He is the most valuable ball carrier in the league, and you pay him exactly what he wants.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:12 am to
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he's damn sure not a top 10 weapon in this league.


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It's better to have people think you're a moron than to speak and remove all doubt.


Bro, these idiots only know how to complain about the teams best players/coaches. Thats sports to them.

They do it re: the saints, pelicans, and lsu. Saints lose, Brees/SPayton sucks etc. They been doing it for years.

Morons gonna be morons.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:29 am to
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It's better to have people think you're a moron than to speak and remove all doubt.


Name your top 10 weapons.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:36 am to
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He is the most valuable ball carrier in the league, and you pay him exactly what he wants.


You have to be fricking kidding me right now. So Kamara is more valuable than Derrick Henry? I see why people talk bad about this site. The shite I'm reading is unbelievable.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28735 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 10:45 am to
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Bro, these idiots only know how to complain about the teams best players/coaches. Thats sports to them.


Facts are the system is great and others could have replicated the production if given the opportunity in the system. If you watch football do you really not think somebody like Kareem Hunt wouldn't succeed in this offense?

Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
574 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:15 am to
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Name your top 10 weapons.


You first. I want to see you dig your hole deeper
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
574 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:16 am to
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Kareem Hunt wouldn't succeed in this offense?


He absolutely would succeed in this offense. Would he be as good as Kamara, absolutely not
Posted by PurpleKnight88
Laplace, LA
Member since Jan 2009
856 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:38 pm to
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The shite I'm reading is unbelievable.


The shite you believe and say is unbelievable.
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