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re: At least McCaffery runs hard on every play

Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:27 am to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:27 am to
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So, you could say everything CMC does, Kamara does slightly better.


I'm dealing with amateurs here. Please rank the Saints offensive line vs Panthers offensive line. Please rank Drew Brees vs Cam Newton. But hey, feel free to continue to show you don't know anything about sports.

Now the argument you should use is, one is actually playing football while the other has been hurt the last 2 years.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7327 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:06 am to
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Yea it's obvious Derrick Henry is better than fricking Kamara.


Not to anyone who has a clue.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:24 am to
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Not to anyone who has a clue.


So Kamara is better than the guy who ran for over 2k last year? Who now has an offensive coordinator who uses his running backs in the passing game in which he currently has more catches and more ypc than Kamara? Who has shown to be way more of a big play threat compared to Kamara? I guess man. I'll let it go though. Have better things to do with my day than deal with this stupidity or homerism.
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
573 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:32 am to
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You first. I want to see you dig your hole deeper


So basically nothing. The usual.



Kamara
Cook
Henry
Hopkins
Adams
Kelce
Waller
Thielen
McCaffery
Elliott

How’s that, moron. It’s In no particular order. Now do yours so everyone can see how much of a moron you are.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:57 am to
The fact you have all these guys over Tyreke Hill, I'm not even going to waste my time.

This mother fricker has Ezekial Elliot on the list.

Lmfao.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:58 am to
I'm dying laughing over here. ??
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:58 am to
Lol
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:58 am to
Lmao
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:58 am to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:00 am to
I need to create an alter for I can downvote this again.



I can barely put into words how terrible this list is.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17505 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:06 am to
So Todd Gurley was a shitty RB in the early years because his team sucked? All players are judged by stats, not the circumstances of how they got those stats. Stats are beautiful in that they always average out given the right sample size.

I did not go to the easy argument of availability because I didn't want to insult your intelligence, which I now know was a mistake as you are a dumb frick.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:13 am to
Wtf are you even talking about.

Are you another one of these dudes who can't read?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17505 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:18 am to
Takes one to know one you dumb frick
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7327 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:26 am to
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Wtf are you even talking about.

Are you another one of these dudes who can't read?


You're so deep in the hole right now.

It's clear to most of us in this thread, that's why most have washed their hands of you. You're watching through the lens of stats and fantasy, which is a detrimental way to view the game. More yards, better PFF rating, higher ranking on official lists, while they help the layman, mean nothing.

Use your eyes and watch them run. Really pay attention to what makes a great ball carrier. The patience, the ability to stay calm when you have backers barreling down on you, the footwork, the intelligence to know when to turn on the burners and when to stop and let a safety blow past you.

Kamara doesn't bowl over guys and never will. That's not his style, and nor should it be because it would shorten his career by literal years. Derrick Henry is a fricking freak who can probably sustain damage a bit longer than most, but he will also succumb to what all other traditional runningbacks eventually succumb. Derrick Henry runs like a freight train and it works for him.

Kamara is a role player this year to help Jameis, which isn't going to get him a lot of yards. But when we absolutely need something big, he is our guy. Are you upset that we didn't use him to ice the game? He had over 24 carries, most between the tackles last week, because that's where SP needed him. We needed someone at the end to bruise up the middle and get tough yards, so we used Taysom, who was fresh and can has a bit more wear and tear on him overall. Why would anyone use one of the most valuable players on the team, and the most valuable player on offense in that capacity?
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:47 am to
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You're watching through the lens of stats and fantasy


How am I watching through the lens of stats and fantasy when my argument is others would produce similar to greater numbers if given the same usage in the Saints system. I'm saying players with less stats are more talented than Kamara. The stats argument only came up specifically when we were talking about Derrick Henry.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:59 am to
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Use your eyes and watch them run. Really pay attention to what makes a great ball carrier. The patience, the ability to stay calm when you have backers barreling down on you, the footwork, the intelligence to know when to turn on the burners and when to stop and let a safety blow past you.


Yes, Kamara has good vision and amazing balance. I never said he was a garbage player. He has to have these things because of his lack of speed and power. A speed back would be of better use in the Saints offense based on the situations that Payton puts his backs in in this offense. A player like Saquan Barkley would put up better numbers in the Saints offense and Kamara wouldn't do shite in the Giants offense. It's that simple. Yall are the ones making Kamara out to be the God of running backs.

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Kamara is a role player this year to help Jameis, which isn't going to get him a lot of yards.


He's not a role player. He's being keyed on because of the lack of weapons and not having Drew back there. It's called the life after Drew Brees. Kamara is in for a long season if Winston doesn't open up the passing attack.

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Are you upset that we didn't use him to ice the game? He had over 24 carries, most between the tackles last week, because that's where SP needed him. We needed someone at the end to bruise up the middle and get tough yards, so we used Taysom, who was fresh and can has a bit more wear and tear on him overall. Why would anyone use one of the most valuable players on the team, and the most valuable player on offense in that capacity?


Every team in the NFL uses their running back at the end of the games. What are you talking about? Taysom was in there because it was working at the end. Why continue to pound Kamara for 3 yards per carry.
Posted by 3amigosanddad
Member since Aug 2004
573 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:08 pm to
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The fact you have all these guys over Tyreke Hill, I'm not even going to waste my time. This mother fricker has Ezekial Elliot on the list. Lmfao.


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dj30


This dumb fricking moron wouldn’t have AK on his list. Lol. If I would have said Tyreke this dumb frick would have said I left Zeke off. fricking dumb moronic fricking trolls are the dumbest motherfrickers. Where’s your list you stupid fricking moron.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7641 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:14 pm to
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dj30


Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28728 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:21 pm to
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left Zeke off


Zeke isnt on the same level as someone like Nick Chubb(if you even know who this is). Zeke might not make my top 10 rb list let alone weapons.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7327 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Every team in the NFL uses their running back at the end of the games. What are you talking about? Taysom was in there because it was working at the end. Why continue to pound Kamara for 3 yards per carry.


I'm above this.

Have a good one.
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