re: ingram for wiggins Wiseman and kuminga. * speculation of bleacher report.

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Right at this moment? he'd be the 2nd best behind curry.

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Yeah, I just don't agree with this at all. 4th. Maybe 3rd, if Thompson or Green hit a decline.

I just think you are way undervaluing defense way too much.

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you're delusional if you're saying that team was 'loaded'. lebron and ingram both played only 50 or so games that year and the rest were a bunch of C tier role players.

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You can't say a team is bad, cause people got injured. They were struggling before Ingram or James got hurt.

The Lakers swapped Ingram, Hart and Ball for Davis, Bradley and Green.. then won the Championship. The went from out of the playoffs to the Championship by changing those 3 guys. We stayed the same.

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I'm implying that a top 8 of Graham, NAW, Ingram, Zion, JV, Hart, Hayes, and Satoransky can be the same as a top 8 of LeBron, Ingram, Kuzma, KCP, Hart, McGee, Rondo, and Ball.

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Is that a good thing? That team didn't make the playoffs.

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Yet Holiday was the 3rd best player on his team and despite being the "point guard" handled the ball the 3rd most on said championship team

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Holiday was the catalyst that put them over the top. My whole point was that we had him. It didn't work with what we had. It's hard to blame Holiday, when he leaves and wins a Championship. Giannis took a big leap. But that team couldn't get past the ECF before Holiday showed up.