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re: Putin has banned all vaxx mandates!
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:30 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:30 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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You didn’t even bother to address the point I made.
Sure I did.
It's a stupid and irrelevant point.
I'm not surprised that you don't understand why.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:31 pm to Seldom Seen
I hate that I like Putin more than 99% of our leftist politicians.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:32 pm to JayWhite
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I'm not surprised that you don't understand why.
I’m not surprised that you won’t answer a question wherein your answer would clearly contradict your position.
Stop pretending you’re some principled conservative. I think it’s pretty clear you’re a liberal hiding behind a facade of conservatism.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:33 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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I’m not surprised that you won’t answer a question wherein your answer would clearly contradict your position.
If you explain the racial aspect of vaccination, you'll have a point.
But you don't have a point, and you can't explain that because it doesn't exist.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:35 pm to JayWhite
You’re the dumbass that made the public safety the issue.
If black males are a public safety hazard then why shouldn’t I be able to ban them from my establishment if they pose a risk to public safety?
If black males are a public safety hazard then why shouldn’t I be able to ban them from my establishment if they pose a risk to public safety?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:37 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Explain the racial aspect of vaccination.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:42 pm to JayWhite
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Explain the racial aspect of vaccination.
Why should I anwer question to your Strawman logic?
I made no such claim that vaccination status should be a reason that black males shouldn’t be able to enter a business.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:43 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Why should I anwer question to your Strawman logic?
Straw man is quite literally what you're attempting to do.
You won't get away with it.
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I made no such claim that vaccination status should be a reason that black males shouldn’t be able to enter a business.
Nah, you just forgot CRA64 existed.
Or worse, you're too stupid to even know it existed in the first place.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:46 pm to JayWhite
Your claim is that businesses have a right to exclude certain people for the public safety. Given your position, why shouldn’t a business be able to exclude a black male from their business to protect the other patrons from harm?
You’re the one that made the public safety argument, defend your argument!
You’re the one that made the public safety argument, defend your argument!
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:50 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Your claim is that businesses have a right to exclude certain people for the public safety.
Incorrect.
My claim is that private businesses can set requirements and policies within the law. That has nothing to do with someone's race.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:55 pm to JayWhite
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Incorrect
No it’s not
Your earlier posit was that businesses can make decisions based upon public safety because of “science”, now you’ve completely shifted your position to what’s within the law.
If executives and legislatures say it’s not within the law to enforce vaccine mandates, then it’s within the law for them to issue such orders.
You can’t have it both ways no matter how badly you want to.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:58 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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No it’s not
Yes, it is for the reasons stated. Go back and read them again. I won't repeat myself.
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Your earlier posit was that businesses can make decisions based upon public safety because of “science”, now you’ve completely shifted your position to what’s within the law.
Incorrect. I've further explained my position based on your lame straw man attempt.
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If executives and legislatures say it’s not within the law to enforce vaccine mandates, then it’s within the law.
This isn't Russia, comrade.
Now, let's get back to your stupidity. You really didn't know the CRA64 existed when you made that idiotic point, did you? That's too funny.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:02 pm to JayWhite
Earlier you stated that vaccine mandates are for public safety. You completely abandoned that when I pointed out the black male scenario and weakly attempted to build a Strawman.
You said something is has to be “within the law”. Are you suggesting that governors and state legislatures who are banning vaccine mandates aren’t “within the law”?
You said something is has to be “within the law”. Are you suggesting that governors and state legislatures who are banning vaccine mandates aren’t “within the law”?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:07 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Earlier you stated that vaccine mandates are for public safety.
Incorrect. I stated that private businesses should have the ability to set policies based on objective science and medicine.
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You completely abandoned that when I pointed out the black male scenario and weakly attempted to build a Strawman.
I haven't abandoned that. I've successfully forced you to retreat from your stupidity about the CRA64.
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You said something is has to be “within the law”. Are you suggesting that governors and state legislatures who are banning vaccine mandates aren’t “within the law”?
I don't have to suggest it. The courts have been doing that.
Put another way, I suppose you're cool with Biden implementing federal mask and vaccine mandates or telling private businesses they aren't allowed to hire or serve people who aren't vaccinated or wearing masks. I'm not, and it wouldn't last...thanks to our laws.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:15 pm to JayWhite
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Incorrect. I stated that private businesses should have the ability to set policies based on objective science and medicine.
Based upon politicized science that you obviously support
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haven't abandoned that. I've successfully forced you to retreat from your stupidity about the CRA64
You never even answered my question so yeah you in fact did abandon that
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don't have to suggest it. The courts have been doing that. Put another way, I suppose you're cool with Biden implementing federal mask and vaccine mandates or telling private businesses they aren't allowed to hire or serve people who aren't vaccinated or wearing masks. I'm not, and it wouldn't last...thanks to our laws.
This doesn’t answer any of the questions I asked of you. State governors and legislatures have far more control over what happens in their state than Biden has. Are you suggesting they don’t have control over those things?
You’re the one who insisted that it’s “within the law” and now you’re retreating from what’s within the law of state governors and legislatures because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:20 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Based upon politicized science that you obviously support
Based on objective science and medicine that we all should support, assuming you have some understanding of either.
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You never even answered my question so yeah you in fact did abandon that
I've addressed every relevant point you've made and every question you asked.
Don't think I'm going to forget about your refusal to acknowledge your stupidity regarding CRA64.
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This doesn’t answer any of the questions I asked of you. State governors and legislatures have far more control over what happens in their state than Biden has. Are you suggesting they don’t have control over those things?
Right...that's how our government works.
Oddly, that bolsters my point that Putin doesn't have that same problem. Wonder why...
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You’re the one who insisted that it’s “within the law” and now you’re retreating from what’s within the law of state governors and legislatures because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
You keep saying that, but I don't think you know what it means.
If a court strikes it down, as has already happened repeatedly, it isn't within the law.
How are you this far in life without understanding this stuff?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:24 pm to Seldom Seen
Private citizens should come first.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:37 pm to JayWhite
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Based on objective science and medicine that we all should support, assuming you have some understanding of either.
So you concede this is about public safety, even though you previously tried to lie and say it wasn’t?
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I've addressed every relevant point you've made and every question you asked. Don't think I'm going to forget about your refusal to acknowledge your stupidity regarding CRA64.
No, you’ve attempted Strawman argument after Strawman argument and when that didn’t work you’ve accused me of not understanding your enlightened arguments. Your failure to articulate a coherent argument isn’t my fault.
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Right...that's how our government works. Oddly, that bolsters my point that Putin doesn't have that same problem. Wonder why...
Then why are you arguing against banning vaccine mandates here?
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You keep saying that, but I don't think you know what it means. If a court strikes it down, as has already happened repeatedly, it isn't within the law. How are you this far in life without understanding this stuff?
I’m betting these same courts you jerk yourself to sleep at night over think eviction moratoriums by the CDC are completely ‘constitutional’.
Hitching your wagons to court rulings only proves that you’re a fake conservative.
Might as well lube your arse up for diversity mandates at your business, cuck!
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:44 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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So you concede this is about public safety, even though you previously tried to lie and say it wasn’t?
Of course not, because that isn't what I said.
Part of your problem is that you're assuming that I support mandated vaccines. I do not.
The other part of your problem is that you're conflating private businesses with schools and other entities.
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No, you’ve attempted Strawman argument after Strawman argument and when that didn’t work you’ve accused me of not understanding your enlightened arguments. Your failure to articulate a coherent argument isn’t my fault.
Says the dude who literally pulled out "what about black dudes."
fricking lol at you.
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Then why are you arguing against banning vaccine mandates here?
Because I don't want the federal government to have that power over private businesses.
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I’m betting these same courts you jerk yourself to sleep at night over think eviction moratoriums by the CDC are completely ‘constitutional’.
Well, they don't actually. If you didn't hear, those were ended by...yep, the courts.
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Hitching your wagons to court rulings only proves that you’re a fake conservative.
I'm hitching my wagon to the Constitution. You should read it.
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Might as well lube your arse up for diversity mandates at your business, cuck!
This is the ultimate expression of stupidity.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:02 pm to Seldom Seen
How the motherfrick is goddamn Putin less authoritarian than our Democrats and establishment?
That dude probably kills his political rivals ..and even he knows not to force his populace to get injections.
That dude probably kills his political rivals ..and even he knows not to force his populace to get injections.
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