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re: Putin has banned all vaxx mandates!
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:40 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:40 pm to Cosmo
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Why he is telling private businesses what to do?
Because businesses don’t have the right to mandate injections onto people they already employed. Putin is protecting basic civil liberties. You don’t get to fire employees and ruin their lives just because you want to inject them with an experimental vaccine after you hired them
Here in the states you can do that. Not in Russia.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 4:59 pm
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Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:51 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Legalizing rape and pedophilia would be smaller government.
Explain the correlation between private business decisions, rape, and pedophilia.
Sounds like a false equivalence to me, but I'm willing to see if you can expand on your point.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:53 pm to Jack Carter
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basic civil liberties
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individual liberties
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civil liberties
Was there a memo put out about how best to defend Putin?
Framing Putin as a champion of liberty is certainly one angle.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:00 pm to JayWhite
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Was there a memo put out about how best to defend Putin?
It’s not about defending Putin; it’s about defending the people
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Framing Putin as a champion of liberty is certainly one angle.
It’s not about Putin; it’s about the people
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:02 pm to Cosmo
quote:because he wants to be more like Joe
Why he is telling private businesses what to do?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:03 pm to Seldom Seen
Putin is a president who stands up for what is in the best interest of the Russian people.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:04 pm to Jack Carter
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It’s not about defending Putin
Then why are so many doing exactly that?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:09 pm to JayWhite
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Then why are so many doing exactly that?
Because Putin obviously recognizes REAL fascism and did the right thing to protect the people he represents in this situation.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:31 pm to Porky
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Because Putin obviously recognizes REAL fascism
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did the right thing to protect the people he represents in this situation
Not really. You just personally agree with the outcome.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:34 pm to JayWhite
No. I understand the danger and threat of corporations and money dictating public policy, i.e. fascism.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:34 pm to JayWhite
You think Putin is a fascist? 
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:50 pm to Porky
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No. I understand the danger and threat of corporations and money dictating public policy, i.e. fascism.
That isn't fascism. That's lobbying.
I suspect you don't have nearly as much of a problem with the lobbying you agree with.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:51 pm to ShinerHorns
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You think Putin is a fascist?
I didn't say that, but I bet I'm a lot closer to being right than you are.
Do you want to have a discussion, or is this more of a drive-by?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:58 pm to JayWhite
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That isn't fascism. That's lobbying.
I suspect you don't have nearly as much of a problem with the lobbying you agree with.
Lobby involving money, perks, and anything besides the exchange of information is nothing but cloaked bribery.
And fascism loves bribery.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:02 pm to Porky
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Lobby involving money, perks, and anything besides the exchange of information is nothing but cloaked bribery.
And fascism loves bribery.
Yeah, that's nice. My point stands.
So basically, you're in favor of fascism, so long as it's fascism you like.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:09 pm to JayWhite
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That isn't fascism. That's lobbying.
I suspect you don't have nearly as much of a problem with the lobbying you agree with.
Wrong. You like politicians representing whatever/whomever gives them bribes? Because that is exactly what 'lobby' has become in this country.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:19 pm to JayWhite
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That's actually the opposite of what I suggested.
You sound more like an anarchist than a conservative. You think businesses should be able to do whatever they want to both customers and employees.
This might come as a surprise to you, but you can still be a conservative without signing an anarchist suicide pact.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:23 pm to Porky
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Wrong. You like politicians representing whatever/whomever gives them bribes? Because that is exactly what 'lobby' has become in this country.
I don't generally like politicians at all. I vote for politicians who best represent my interests and my values. That's a separate issue from the "lobby."
I generally don't see people making this argument call out organizations like the NRA or NRLC, or at least not until they're cornered and don't have a choice. You're probably at that point.
Go ahead and call them out, Mr. Hogg. Tell me how I have blood on my hands because I've given the NRA money.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:27 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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You think businesses should be able to do whatever they want to both customers and employees.
Incorrect. I simply disagree with the position at which you draw the same line I do. We're talking about overreach by the federal government, not about abolishing the federal government. You really should avoid making accusations if you can't even be bothered to understand the basic tenants of some idea.
Put differently, I suppose you'd be fine with the federal government stepping in to tell me I cannot ban you from my home if you aren't vaccinated. Maybe you think I should be able to walk in to your home, eat your food, and call your wife a whore.
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