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Retirement - 1M lump sum or 5k per month until death.

Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:58 am
Posted by VanJoe
Member since May 2020
34 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:58 am
I’m a heathy 58-year-old with no debt. My company pension plan gives me choice to take one-time lump sum of 1M or receive 5k per month until I die. What should I take?
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1544 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:00 am to
1M now and dont look back.
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4541 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:00 am to
quote:

no debt

quote:

1M
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:02 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58455 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:01 am to
Take the mil and dump it in sli and pqeff


I work at your company too. All us millenials get for retirement is an offbrand Apple Watch and free burial insurance if we’re strong enough to climb into the dumpster
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1544 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:03 am to
Takes him 16+ years to hit a million (yes I know the taxes will be different) and 5k in today’s dollars is not equal to 5k in 15 years. Not even close.

1M all day.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1544 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:03 am to
PQEFF huh? Lol
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58455 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:05 am to
Pqeffs time is gonna come
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3433 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:05 am to
I wish social security would offer me something like this (I’m 42). I pay the max amount every year. I think I’d accept $250k now and eat the loss instead of my anticipated 100% loss
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1544 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:05 am to
What’s your PT again. Getting really tired sitting on this one.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58455 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:08 am to
Just gonna hold forever. They’ll get the offer they can’t refuse eventually
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:16 am to
1M lump sum all day.

Like others have said, it would take 16 1/2 years to reach 1M from the 5k payments and with inflation on its current path, dollar for dollar that money you get later will be worth a hell of a lot less than what you get now.

Also, if you can average 6% returns annually with that 1M, you are making that 5k anyway assuming you spend your return.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1797 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:17 am to
1m no doubt. 5k stops when you die, the several hundred thousand you should have left (depending on the rest of your scenario) can go to kids/family/charity.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44871 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:18 am to
VYM would give you $2300ish a month. Not sure what other income streams you have, but leaving 2500 on the table each month is huge.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:18 am to
quote:

My company pension plan gives me choice to take one-time lump sum of 1M or receive 5k per month until I die. What should I take?


That's a 6% return OP. How does the 1 mil work as far as taxes go? You can very likely beat that fairly easily especially if you go very conservative the first 2-3 years OP. Take just 4% or $40k/ year for 3-5 years and let it build up to $1.2 mil and then take out the $60k/ year and you are almost guaranteed to be in great shape.

I'd take the lump sum all day long though, its in your control for one. But most importantly your estate keeps it after your death.

FWIW they are likely holding 1.2 mil or 1.4 mil on your behalf. So if you do the 1 mil they benefit also.
Posted by Champs
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Member since Feb 2008
12414 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:52 am to
frick...taco bell pays well
Posted by VanJoe
Member since May 2020
34 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:59 am to
I can roll the 1 mil to an IRA account, and pay tax on the amount withdraw.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25812 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:17 am to
Does the 5k adjust over time for inflation? Are there survivor benefits for spouse or family?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88794 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:18 am to
ONE MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLION DOLLARZ!!!!!!

Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
770 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:19 am to
You need to find out if the $5,000 is a "Period Certain", so if you die, will someone else get it for a certain period of time. If not the case, do the $1,000,000.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41958 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 9:36 am to
$5,000 monthly payment if you are around 30 more years present value at 5% apr is $935,288.95

If you are going to make it past 88 maybe take the $5k

Anybody suggest better discount rate vs 5%
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 9:37 am
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