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re: Twitter Suspends Science Writer After He Posts Results Of Pfizer Clinical Test

Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:03 pm to
I don't get it. Why are there only 29 in the trial? Millions of doses have been given.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5728 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:05 pm to
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I don't get it. Why are there only 29 in the trial? Millions of doses have been given.


Think about that… you think 100% of trial participants died?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:06 pm to
If there were only 29 in the trial we are fricked as that would be a 100% death rate from the Kung Flu.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51824 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

I don't get it. Why are there only 29 in the trial? Millions of doses have been given.


There weren't, there were/are almost 50k.



quote:

In an ongoing, placebo-controlled, observer-blinded, multinational, pivotal efficacy study, 44,165 =16-year-old participants and 2,264 12-15-year-old participants


LINK to the actual study that the Twiddiot site removed.

Parts which should raise eyebrows...

quote:

BNT162b2 is highly efficacious against COVID-19 and is currently authorized for emergency use or conditional approval worldwide. At the time of authorization, data beyond 2 months post-vaccination were unavailable.


Translation: we are guessing this won't hurt people so let's skip Phases I & II population frameworks and skip directly to Phase III. What's the worst that could happen?

quote:

Conclusion With up to 6 months of follow-up and despite a gradually declining trend in vaccine efficacy, BNT162b2 had a favorable safety profile and was highly efficacious in preventing COVID-19.


The bolded/underlined part has me curious. Are they talking about vaccines in general (Polio, Chicken Pox, etc) or are they talking about other COVID-19 vaccines or are they saying the efficacy of their vaccine begins degrading after 6 months?

quote:

Participants who were healthy or had stable chronic medical conditions were eligible. An active immunocompromising condition or recent immunosuppressive therapy were exclusion criteria.


COVID-19 is the new black plague (#NotRacist) so why in the bleeding shite would they not include these two groups or at least do a separate, coinciding study based in these?

quote:

Participants with a COVID-19 medical history were excluded, though evidence of current or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection on laboratory testing of study-obtained samples was not an exclusion.


Translation: You couldn't participate if you were known to have had COVID-19 but you could if you didn't know you had ever had it or caught it during the testing. This makes little sense to me.

quote:

Early protection against COVID-19 without robust serum neutralization indicates that neutralizing titers alone do not appear to explain early BNT162b2-mediated protection from COVID-19. Other immune mechanisms (e.g., innate immune responses, CD4+ or CD8+ T-cell responses, B-cell memory responses, antibody-dependent cytotoxicity) may contribute to protection.




My takeaway from this is that the Placebo Group had an unexpected resistance to COVID-19 which paralleled the Vaccinated Group for up to two weeks.

Even then, if I am understanding the chart correctly, only .08% of the Placebo Group had COVID issues for at least up to 6 months after the test (compared to the <.01% of the Vaccine Group).

My Conclusion: You have pretty much the same chance of dying from COVID-19 whether you take the vaccine or not. While the vaccine will lessen the chances of your catching it, it's statistically irrelevant when compared to that of the unvaccinated (.08% vs <.01%).
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 2:37 pm
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