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re: Mississippi asks the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:19 pm to MMauler
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:19 pm to MMauler
I’ve been curious that if they argued for relief for minorities how would the libs on the court deal with this . With the amount of pressure out there if this got pushed Roe v Wade may have a chance to be overturned .
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:25 pm to TruthSpeaker225
That hilarious, Roe v Wade is literally killing people for the last 5 decades and you want to use a meme of a excuse as a gotcha.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:26 pm to WPBTiger
MS (and the pre-borns) may win.
And then Dems will use the ruling to stir up support to pack the court.
And then Dems will use the ruling to stir up support to pack the court.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:28 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
And then Dems will use the ruling to stir up support to pack the court.
That would definitely be a law of unintended consequences. . .
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:29 pm to WPBTiger
What’s the context of the case?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:29 pm to TruthSpeaker225
quote:
So we’re against “my body my choice” when a woman decides whether or not to give birth. But when it comes to putting a needle in an arm with a vaccine that at this point has been given to millions & millions of people, it’s “but mah freedumb!!!”
Did I get that right?
No, you did not. F- grade.
Your line of thinking is biologically, philosophically, and morally flawed. Where does the life of the pre-born baby fit into this?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:35 pm to SammyTiger
If Roe is overturned, abortion will not be made illegal everywhere. Before Roe, abortion was legal in several states. If Roe is overturned, abortion would most likely be legal in at least 24 states where the majority of the US population lives.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:39 pm to SammyTiger
I read the brief
Mississippi passed a law banning abortions after 15 wks of pregnancy, unless there was a medical emergency.
A hospital sued the state saying the law was unconstitutional pursuant to RvW, which prohibits abortion bans which affect abortions prior to viability of the baby.
Mississippi argued that RvW should not apply bc it should be overruled. They say there’s no basis in the constitution text for creating an abortion right, so there’s no basis for courts to use to understand how the laws relating to abortion should be interpreted. As a result the goalposts keep which prevents any consistent standards. Further, abortion doesn’t relate to privacy interests of family, etc like other Privacy decisions bc abortion involves harming another life or potential life. No other privacy law authorizes harm to another person.
Stare Decisis principles talk about when precedent should be overturned. Mississippi says stare decisis doesn’t prevent overruling RvW bc the decision it relies on old science (regarding viability) and its unworkable to try to apply the law. Further, it argues that removing the Abortion issue from the legislative process, the political discourse is poisoned.
It’s a good brief.
If leftists weren’t rabidly insane over their sacrament - then Mississippi should win. But . . . Wise Latina, Traitorous Roberts - may have other plans
Mississippi passed a law banning abortions after 15 wks of pregnancy, unless there was a medical emergency.
A hospital sued the state saying the law was unconstitutional pursuant to RvW, which prohibits abortion bans which affect abortions prior to viability of the baby.
Mississippi argued that RvW should not apply bc it should be overruled. They say there’s no basis in the constitution text for creating an abortion right, so there’s no basis for courts to use to understand how the laws relating to abortion should be interpreted. As a result the goalposts keep which prevents any consistent standards. Further, abortion doesn’t relate to privacy interests of family, etc like other Privacy decisions bc abortion involves harming another life or potential life. No other privacy law authorizes harm to another person.
Stare Decisis principles talk about when precedent should be overturned. Mississippi says stare decisis doesn’t prevent overruling RvW bc the decision it relies on old science (regarding viability) and its unworkable to try to apply the law. Further, it argues that removing the Abortion issue from the legislative process, the political discourse is poisoned.
It’s a good brief.
If leftists weren’t rabidly insane over their sacrament - then Mississippi should win. But . . . Wise Latina, Traitorous Roberts - may have other plans
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:44 pm to GeorgeWest
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Roe is overturned, abortion will not be made illegal everywhere. Before Roe, abortion was legal in several states. If Roe is overturned, abortion would most likely be legal in at least 24 states where the majority of the US population lives.
Bears repeating.
And you may not realize it but you inadvertently probably just stated the rationale behind why many constitutional conservatives think Roe should be overruled
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:46 pm to Wednesday
It wasn't inadvertent.
If people really want to stop abortions, a change of heart is needed in individuals. Laws that reflect a minority view (abortion is murder) will not change reality on the ground.
If people really want to stop abortions, a change of heart is needed in individuals. Laws that reflect a minority view (abortion is murder) will not change reality on the ground.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:47 pm to Wednesday
Should be interesting.
I was Wondering if the SCOTUS had any procedural reasons to punt.
I was Wondering if the SCOTUS had any procedural reasons to punt.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:56 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I think it takes 4 of the 9 to say, "we'll hear this one".
I was Wondering if the SCOTUS had any procedural reasons to punt.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:59 pm to GeorgeWest
Agree one hundred and fifty percent GW
As I’ve gotten older I’ve become more opposed to abortion on policy grounds. I used to be ambivalent about it, thinking It’s not something I would ever do-so it was irrelevant to me if it were legal. As I’ve thought more about it, and matured, I do believe that it is a barbaric practice and states should be able to make laws that regulate it.
But Roe has never made sense from a constitutional standpoint; and it should be overturned on that basis alone. It’s a state issue. People in different states with different cultures have different views about it. Someone who lives in San Francisco doesn’t need to be making decisions about abortion for someone who lives in Alabama.
As I’ve gotten older I’ve become more opposed to abortion on policy grounds. I used to be ambivalent about it, thinking It’s not something I would ever do-so it was irrelevant to me if it were legal. As I’ve thought more about it, and matured, I do believe that it is a barbaric practice and states should be able to make laws that regulate it.
But Roe has never made sense from a constitutional standpoint; and it should be overturned on that basis alone. It’s a state issue. People in different states with different cultures have different views about it. Someone who lives in San Francisco doesn’t need to be making decisions about abortion for someone who lives in Alabama.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:06 pm to WPBTiger
quote:Why do they need nine months?
Oral arguments will likely be heard in the late fall or early winter with a decision expected by next June in advance of the midterm elections.
I assume that's to have time in order to determine how to find some bullshite reason that can be used to justify the Roe decision. Thomas has got to be chomping at the bit, but I have No faith in any others on the USSC.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:15 am
Posted on 7/22/21 at 11:29 pm to WPBTiger
That’s cute.
Another state AG thinking his state actually has Standing in the Supreme Court.
Silly rabbit, SCOTUS is for Dems.
Another state AG thinking his state actually has Standing in the Supreme Court.
Silly rabbit, SCOTUS is for Dems.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 11:32 pm to Diamondawg
That’s only to hear it. They’ll sometimes make a ruling on procedural matters after oral arguments.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 11:40 pm to TruthSpeaker225
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So we’re against “my body my choice” when a woman decides whether or not to give birth.
There's more than one body involved.
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