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Good news: UK deaths are not surging even after cases surged opposed to other countries

Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:14 pm
Pretty clear the charts show vaccination is the difference

This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:15 pm to
Or that the delta variant is even less lerhal than the not very lethal COV19 standard, or they may have better care than Timbuktu lmao
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by frequent flyer
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:15 pm to
Delta variant isn’t as dangerous to the non-vaccinated as the original variant?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44622 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:16 pm to
That wouldn’t explain the charts for the other countries
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
The delta variant pummeled counties like India that aren’t vaccinated. People were dying in the thousands. It’s more lethal so the vaccine working against it is great news.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
of course not, the sickly and the elderly have already been vaccinated.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
Lol ok
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:18 pm to
I rememeber at the beginning of all of this, listening to multiple epidemiologist on podcasts say that the usual trend is for viruses to mutate to be more contagious but less severe, or vice versa...that it's an inverse relationship typically. One of these guys later advised biden during transition.

So when all these expected mutations started happening, I was so curious to see if this was true, but not one story ever addresses severity, just that it's more contagious. Kinda weird, it's so hard to get straight info in this day and age.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Or that the delta variant is even less lerhal than the not very lethal COV19 standard


Except that the graph is comparing countries with Delta variant surges
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85165 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:19 pm to
Herd Immunity. However we get there (caveat-without coercion) is fine by me. But it was the correct answer on day one and it's the correct answer now.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
Why do folks down vote statistics?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
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That wouldn’t explain the other countries in the charts


Wouldn't age also play a major factor here? If the roughly half of the UK that aren't vaccinated are young then you're not going to see a big spike in deaths.

In nations with low single digit vaccination rates, you still have not only the majority of the country not vaccinated but the vulnerable populations not vaccinated as well.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
No doubt that everyone is going to get antibodies one way or another
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Except that the graph is comparing countries with Delta variant surges


Ya dont say? Clown
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:22 pm to
It’s all fake


Sheep
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31316 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:22 pm to
The mutated delta variant isn’t targeting the elderly alone. Plenty of young people who weren’t vaccinated in other countries, got it. I really don’t care about anyone’s politics here and actually credit trump with the vaccine. All in all, the vaccine is a good thing.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Delta variant isn’t as dangerous to the non-vaccinated as the original variant?


Maybe

But more likely most old and unhealthy people are now vaccinated
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85165 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:24 pm to
Indeed. As I said on day one, it's coming and no amount of cotton buffer and/or hiding under the bed is going to stop it. So live courageously, take whatever precautions you deem necessary, understand others will disagree and that is their right, and let's keep this show on the road. Full steam ahead, America.
Posted by chaad
Member since May 2021
215 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Except that the graph is comparing countries with Delta variant surges


Interesting… Curious though, what’s the test to determine what type of COVID you get? Can they really test if it’s from regular VID or superserious VID?
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
70610 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

The mutated delta variant isn’t targeting the elderly alone.


I didn't say it was. I'm saying if the elderly/vulnerable aren't vaccinated in these other countries you're going to see a spike in deaths. In countries with low overall vaccination rates, obviously the elderly aren't vaccinated.

If the elderly and vulnerable HAVE been vaccinated and the roughly 50% of the population that is unvaccinated trend younger then the spiking cases likely won't be followed by a major increase in mortality.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 12:26 pm
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