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Some Democratic Party History

Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:46 pm
Never forget the most evil, vile party in the history of this country is the Democratic Party. The cover up of its history is never ending.

This is from 15 years ago and the Party of Filth has added even more chapters of racist legislation and actions to its disgusting resume.

YT

Short watch
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73349 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:48 pm to
So, are you saying that for most of its history, Louisiana was voting for an evil, vile party?

What does that make the people of Louisiana? evil and vile?

I agree the democratic party is odious, but there was a time when it was at least partially honorable.

Many great men, including ronald reagan and grover cleveland, were dems at one point.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:51 pm to
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So, are you saying that for most of its history, Louisiana was voting for an evil, vile party?


I’m telling you what the Dem Party is. You decide what you think is honorable. The Dem party should be the first thing cancelled in today’s world. Just about every evil deed taken against its citizens in this country’s history is a product of Democrats.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:54 pm to
Michigan is right.

My grandparents were Democrats. And my entire family, on all sides, would have been Democrats, going right back to Andrew Jackson.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

My grandparents were Democrats


Mine too. Different times for sure to be able to support the mission of the KKK. Point is, the Dems have always been the party of racial division and still are.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:08 pm to
It’s incorrect to tie them to the KKK, or to say that there share some link with Jim Crow.

The Democrats are racist. And they are Marxist. But they have no ties to the segregationist South. Intellectual or physical.

The party changed, and the membership changed. It’s now full of minorities, and white city people.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:22 pm to
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The party changed, and the membership changed.


The party hasn’t changed. It’s still the party of segregationist and racist. Membership changed through death but not through belief. Blacks made a economic decision, a Faustian Bargain, to vote for the party of slavery and the KKK.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22322 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:25 pm to
We'll have those ______ voting democrat for 200 years!
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:30 pm to
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Membership changed through death but not through belief.


I was a Democrat as late as 2010.

The ultimate problem with this argument, is that you’re legitimizing the Democrats claims about racism. And the idea that racism is a problem.

Racism is not a problem.

And that’s what we should all be saying.

We should be rejecting the Democrats claims, out of hand. Denying their legitimacy, top to bottom. Calling them liars, frauds, and hucksters.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:35 pm to
From a rhetorical standpoint, you’re choosing the weakest possible response.

You’re accepting the Democratic position, and offering a weak repost.

It’s better to reject their argument, and go on the attack instead.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:44 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:54 pm to
Agree on those points. But if they want to play the racist game, exposing the Dem Party’s history of everything race related is easy and I think important to note. The vast majority of people I talk to believe that the Republican Party founded the KKK and were the authors of Jim Crow etc.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:57 pm to
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But if they want to play the racist game, exposing the Dem Party’s history of everything race related is easy and I think important to note.


It’s a losing argument and a mistake.

It’s probably the worst response we could choose.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3909 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 12:03 am to
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The party changed

One of the “great flip” people huh? What party was FDR? He was a big conservative politician by the “great flip” logic.

Also I don’t see how going from white people to still white people is some huge demographic switch, no offense.
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
5016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 12:03 am to
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o, are you saying that for most of its history, Louisiana was voting for an evil, vile party? What does that make the people of Louisiana?


Stupid
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14309 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:28 am to
quote:

So, are you saying that for most of its history, Louisiana was voting for an evil, vile party?

What does that make the people of Louisiana? evil and vile?


Well for it’s early history Louisiana was Whig.
When the Whigs vanished in 1856, it became staunch Democrat.
Let’s check its evilness.
Slavery? Yes and evil.
Segregation? Yes and evil.
Free shite during New Deal? Yes and evil.
Political corruption of biblical proportions from Huey Long to Edwin Edwards? Yes and evil.

Sorry, but if you vote for evil, you’re not being saintly. Most were just as ignorant as your average Democrat today, and get a you’re not evil due to gross stupidity excuse.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126819 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:13 am to
Good luck trying to find “Unfounded Loyalty” by Wayne Perryman.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:19 am to
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What does that make the people of Louisiana? evil and vile?


Says the dupe from Michigan and living in California.

Maybe you spend too much time in the sun. Seek help.
Posted by Q Fabius
Member since Jul 2021
1 post
Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:04 am to
One of the greatest ironies of today's political landscape is how closely the Democratic party, and all of its subsidiary interests, align with the thought and action of the antebellum (pre-Civil War) South.

The first time idea of explicitly racial politics gained traction on a national scale, it was brought about by John C Calhoun, South Carolina Democratic senator whose ideas primarily led to the Confederacy. "The Marx of the Master Class," Calhoun essentially developed a political philosophy based around the idea of slavery's natural goodness.  He envisioned an essential socialist utopia for white people, supported by slavery. He realized that slavery would not work with the American regime as it existed; he realized he needed to flatly deny the principle of equality as presented in the Declaration of Independence (because he and everyone else knew the Founders meant all people,, not just whites and not just males). To justify slavery, he called equality a "self-evident lie." He asserted that, instead of being granted inalienable rights by Nature and Nature's God, groups of people instead "earned" rights based upon their civilizational development throughout history.  He asserted whites had earned their freedom, while blacks had not. Rights are not natural but dependent on history. Therefore, whites had the "right" to assert unlimited control over the back race without their consent.  Your social status depends on membership in a group - that's identity politics. For Calhoun, group identity was defined by race.

If that doesn't sound familiar, think of the growing idea today (predominantly on the Left) that white people, because of their ancestors' history, don't deserve to have an independent voice in moral political matters. People of color, on the other hand, have pre-determined authority in moral and political matters because their history of being oppressed. White people, because of their history, do not have legislation made with the explicit aim of granting them access to college, employment, etc. Since civil rights legislation of 1965, people of color (and other minorities) are by law given preferential treatment in these areas. Since 1965, culture has been pushing in this direction further and further (reference Amazon's "black business" program, the lobbying of the NBA and NFL, or nearly anything else that is deemed morally questionable if it doesn't intentionally pander to minority groups). "Protected class" used to be an ironic term to refer derisively to affirmative action, now it's an actual legal term with legal standing. The message today is: what you deserves depends upon your skin color, gender, sexual orientation, and how those traits line up with what we like or dislike in history. Rights are historically contingent. People's moral worth is dependent upon their membership of a group; today, the groups are race, gender, and sexual orientation.

That's the deeper theoretical basis for the similarity between the Left and the Confederacy. More mundane political matters are even more amusing.

Think about California's active disregard for federal immigration law, or even the state's threats to secede when Trump became president. Those are mirror images of state nullification debates in the early 1800s (led by Calhoun) or the actual secession of southern states in 1860. We've seen that movie before.

Think also of Roe v Wade or the Obergefell court cases. Both are attempts to end widespread national political debates (i.e. debates rightly settled by the people voting through their representatives) by judicial fiat that implements a national mandate. Sounds suspiciously familiar to the Dredd Scott case, where Justice Roger B Taney essentially declared that slavery was legal throughout the US and it's territories (so long as a slave owner would take his "property" across state lines). Such a decision would mandate slavery's legality everywhere, regardless of states that had already banned slavery through democratic means.

You might take the last two examples to say that "the Left will use whatever mechanism of power to achieve what they want." That's true, but nullification and judicial legislation (and all the other ways the Left pushes their agenda) actually follow logically from the first premise of denying natural equality. Equality is the theoretical basis for political consent; they are two sides of the same coin. Without the former, there is no reason for the latter. Once equality is done away with, there is no moral or political reason to abide by the consent of the governed - consent is no longer important. So long as the goals is good--as the Left and Democratic party supposes they are--using un-democratic means to achieve those goals is not only unproblematic, but salutary. When ballots failed, the Democratic South resorted to bullets. When ballots fail today, the Democratic Party resorts to whatever it can short of bullets (but lots of rioting and looting..."guns are for hicks") to get what it wants.

In the early 1800s, the Democratic Party twisted and distorted the institutions of American government around one "peculiar institution," slavery. Today, the Democratic Party is twisting the institutions of government around the multiple interests that compose the Left's agenda. Both stem from the denial of equality, and both are antithetical to American government as it was founded. Today's "party of civil rights" takes it's cues from the world's first slave state.

-QFMV
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:28 am to
LBJ had that infamous exchange with a campaign manager where he suggested planting a story about his opponent sleeping with a pig, or something of the sort.

The campaign manager pointed out that it was a lie.

Johnson responded, I don’t care, I want to hear him deny it.

It’s a when did you stop beating your wife statement.

That’s why you call them frauds and liars.
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