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I’m a practicing lawyer and I continue to maintain that this is the most disturbing thing to me about the treatment of Trump and his supporters.

I've not yet read the opinion of the court, I'm waiting for my anger to subside. Is their standing that Rudy made false statements before the court? If so, isn't every lawyer who puts forth a losing argument essentially making a false statement, as only one side may be the victor? How many defense attorneys claim their client is innocent while concocting an outlandish narrative that is proven to be false by the prosecution's evidence and decided by judge or jury?

This case is absolutely disheartening.

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Posted by NC_Tigah

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Posted on 6/29/21 at 6:29 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7

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Is their standing that Rudy made false statements before the court?

No. Nowhere near that limited. The "Court" even incorporated statements made outside of the courtroom which they considered as "misleading".

They inclusively cite "false and misleading statements" (many not yet PROVEN false btw) made both in and out of court.

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we conclude that there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump

"Hands up! Don't shoot!"

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Posted by Dday63

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Posted on 6/29/21 at 7:38 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7

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Is their standing that Rudy made false statements before the court? If so, isn't every lawyer who puts forth a losing argument essentially making a false statement, as only one side may be the victor?

That is where the ethical violations begin. Rudy knowingly made false statements in court. Rudy admitted that certain statements were false, he just claims he thought they were true at the time. This isn't a danger of attacking losing arguments; this is preventing attorneys from intentionally lying to the Court, which is a major ethical violation.

While Rudy claimed he thought the statements were true at the time, he could not explain why he thought they were true. Presented no evidence of what he relied on.

The suspension is heavy handed, and obviously politically motivated, but I don't find it scary at all. The public statements and arguments to legislatures were included in the opinion to support the extreme punishment. I do not think intentional lies should be protected free speech, particularly when they are undermining our democracy.

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