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No Ring deals today?

Posted on 6/22/21 at 2:42 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56884 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 2:42 pm
Just refurbs. That sucks. Thanks Amazon
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9227 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:24 pm to
Alarm and cameras are on sale for prime members
Posted by Simon Gruber
Member since Mar 2017
921 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:48 pm to
You can actually get multiple floodlight cameras cheaper from ring. The prime deal only lets you buy one at the same price. Ring gives you a discount for buying multiple.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34042 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:50 pm to
Ring needs to upgrade to 4K
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56884 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:05 pm to
Was hoping for doorbell. Had my eye on a ring pro
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Ring needs to upgrade to 4K
They would have to upgrade those sub fees too.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31547 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:59 pm to
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Ring needs to upgrade to 4K


That would be a metric frickton of data.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:42 pm to
It's really hard to find 4K wifi cameras (I believe the 4K Arlo requires their hub, it doesn't connect via wifi), probably because decent looking 4k requires more than what most home wifi can handle reliably. Especially if the cameras are outdoors, wifi speed can drop dramatically. Add to that the random latency spikes inherent to wifi, and it's a recipe for shitty video.

It's even worse if the camera has to record to the cloud rather than a local NVR or memory card, because you are limited by the upload speed and reliability of the internet connection. A really huge chunk of the population doesn't have enough upstream bandwidth to record a single 4K camera at kind of average quality, so it would get compressed to hell and you'd be better off with standard HD.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31547 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:50 pm to
I think the average person vastly underestimates both how much data 4K requires and how shite their upload speed is
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58293 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:21 am to
Ring sucks arse
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:43 am to
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Ring sucks arse
After nearly 3 years with 3 ring doorbells, I have yet to capture a video that could be used to ID a person that I didn't already know. I mean if someone rings the bell and stands there waiting, after 5-10 seconds the video clears up enough to see some detail. But like for delivery drivers, I get zero footage of the 50' walk to the door, and zero footage of them dropping the package. I get fuzzy video of them turning to leave and then the video clears up a bit by the time they are 25' away facing the other direction. Obviously someone could walk up and take a package and I've got nothing on the ring.

So I have a real security camera monitoring the front porch until I can replicate the ring/echo show interface with a better doorbell.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32345 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:26 am to
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So I have a real security camera monitoring the front porch until I can replicate the ring/echo show interface with a better doorbell.


Us to. I have it pointed to the front porch from the garage to catch "faces" when people are walking away. It's very effective.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31547 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:28 am to
Have you stood outside next to your camera and run an internet speed test to see what you’re getting in upload speed?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58293 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:44 am to
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After nearly 3 years with 3 ring doorbells, I have yet to capture a video that could be used to ID a person that I didn't already know. I mean if someone rings the bell and stands there waiting, after 5-10 seconds the video clears up enough to see some detail. But like for delivery drivers, I get zero footage of the 50' walk to the door, and zero footage of them dropping the package. I get fuzzy video of them turning to leave and then the video clears up a bit by the time they are 25' away facing the other direction. Obviously someone could walk up and take a package and I've got nothing on the ring.

So I have a real security camera monitoring the front porch until I can replicate the ring/echo show interface with a better doorbell.


how is its wireless signal? I get decent video, when it decides to record. I get alerts of me walking out the door, and the cats that peruse my front porch at all hours of the night. But the delivery driver that runs in and out with the package...nope. The Cameras are worse. Catches every passing car on the road and bush that shakes the trees, but the car that pulls in my driveway to drop something off, nope. Or the truck that smashed into me while i was stopped in the road, nope. Which lead to the settlement being 50/50 when it was 100% his fault.


Have you tried the Doorbell G4. thats my next piece of UI equipment.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56884 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:24 am to
What you recommend for a doorbell camera?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Have you stood outside next to your camera and run an internet speed test to see what you’re getting in upload speed?

Yeah. I don't recall the actual numbers at each of the 3 doors, but my phone is able to upload plenty fast enough when placed right against them.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Have you tried the Doorbell G4. thats my next piece of UI equipment.
Not yet, but that's my plan as soon as they get off their asses and integrate with my echo show. I don't need the feature but the wife and kids love it.

I can't wait to get that 24/7 recording at the doorbell with no subscription and slick as hell mobile app.
Posted by TigerDaddy30
Member since Jul 2011
841 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 3:08 pm to
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I can't wait to get that 24/7 recording at the doorbell with no subscription and slick as hell mobile app.
Is that coming from Ring? This was the sole reason as to why I went with the Google Nest Hello doorbell.

ETA: the 24/7 recording, that is. I still pay a sub fee each year.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1270 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 4:41 pm to
Not hijack, but can you just get a ring camera /doorbell item and use it free? I know there is an APP, but do I have to pay for anything? other then the time to wire it up and make it fit?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:12 pm to
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Is that coming from Ring? This was the sole reason as to why I went with the Google Nest Hello doorbell.

ETA: the 24/7 recording, that is. I still pay a sub fee each year.
No, I was referring to the UniFi Protect system by Ubiquiti. They have a video doorbell that records to the local NVR installed at your home. That's how you get sub-free 24/7 recording.
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