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re: Catholic bishops approve drafting of Communion document that could lead to rebuke of Biden
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:43 pm to Revelator
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:43 pm to Revelator
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Growing up Catholic and going to a Catholic school during my elementary years, I remember there being an attitude that only the priest was qualified to interpret the Bible, and individual Bible reading was never encouraged.
I wish for you that your formation in the faith had been better, and better informed. Along your road to becoming a Southern Baptist you became misinformed about a great majority of Catholic teachings and much of the dogma.
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You can go back and read the tone about the Bible from Catholics in this thread and it’s easy to see it’s not one that is positive.
I haven't seen anyone (Catholic or Protestant) describe the Scriptures as anything other than sacred.
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There is a pervasive attitude that the Bible is either a lesser source of information as church tradition or at best, only equal to tradition.
You are the one who is making the leap from it being an integral part of the deposit of faith to being a "less than equal" component.
You are bringing your bias in by saying it is a binary equation where if the Bible is not the only source of truth, it is then a subordinate source of truth.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:49 pm to Foch
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You are the one who is making the leap from it being an integral part of the deposit of faith to being a "less than equal" component.
You are bringing your bias in by saying it is a binary equation where if the Bible is not the only source of truth, it is then a subordinate source of truth.
I guess it bears repeating:
Holy Tradition is the deposit of faith given by Jesus Christ to the Apostles and passed on in the Church from one generation to the next without addition, alteration or subtraction. That means nothing gets added, nothing gets changed, and nothing gets removed.
Holy Tradition is transmitted to the Christian from the Apostles of Jesus Christ both by word of mouth and in writing (II Thess. 2:15, 3:6). The Orthodox theologian Vladimir Lossky famously described Tradition as “the life of the Holy Spirit in the Church.” It is dynamic in its application, but unchanging in its doctrine. It is growing in expression, yet always the same in its essential meaning.
Unlike some ideas about tradition, the Orthodox Church does not see Holy Tradition as something that grows and expands over time, forming a collection of practices and doctrines which accumulate, gradually becoming something more developed and eventually unrecognizable to the first Christians. Rather, Holy Tradition is that same faith that Jesus taught to the Apostles and that they gave to their disciples, preserved in the Church and especially in its leadership through Apostolic succession (Jude 1:3).
At the center of Holy Tradition is the Holy Scriptures, the Bible, the written witness to God’s revelation in the Church. That means that the Scriptures are always interpreted from within the Tradition that was the context for their writing and canonization, a process that lasted until the 4th century - it was not until the year 367 that we see the first list of the 27 books we now know as the New Testament.
Alongside Holy Tradition, Orthodox Christians may also speak about other traditions, which are various customs that help us to express the Holy Tradition—these are things like how certain feast days are celebrated, the exact nature of fasting rules, or details of the Church calendar. These things can change over time, and they have. And that’s okay. What’s important is that the Holy Tradition given by Jesus remains the same.
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