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TV Shows That Predicted What Would Happen To Men?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:18 am
More of a general discussion topic so I figured the TV/Movie board wasn't the best place to post this. What TV Shows do you find best predict what has happened to men?
I bring this up because I am currently out of town and staying in a hotel and that's pretty much the only time I ever just flip channels. Some channel was showing one of the original Two and a Half men episodes.
While I remember the show being funny it also hit me how sad it really is. Look at the character of Alan Harper (the Jon Cryer character), he is absolutely the epitome of the emasculated modern man. He's what women say (sometimes actually think) they want when the reality is even though they hate Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen of course) that's who they truly want. Someone who is truly a man.
Most people look at the half part of Two and a Half men and assume it's in reference to the child character. I'm not sure it wasn't actually meant to reference the Alan Harper character as he truly is half a man.
It also struck me that even though it's not terribly old, it's a show that would never get out of concept today. Mainly because of how it treated women. Sadly people would still ignore the real pain of men. In real life an Alan Harper type would be a prime candidate to off himself. Yet in the show we just laugh at him. Can you imagine if they had reversed the roles and it was a woman who was getting divorced, kicked out of her house and being used for laughs? The feminist groups would go absolutely nuts.
You could actually argue that a show like Two and a Half men is far more relevant today than it was when it originally ran.
Any other TV shows that looking back in hindsight really predicted what would happen to men?
I bring this up because I am currently out of town and staying in a hotel and that's pretty much the only time I ever just flip channels. Some channel was showing one of the original Two and a Half men episodes.
While I remember the show being funny it also hit me how sad it really is. Look at the character of Alan Harper (the Jon Cryer character), he is absolutely the epitome of the emasculated modern man. He's what women say (sometimes actually think) they want when the reality is even though they hate Charlie Harper (Charlie Sheen of course) that's who they truly want. Someone who is truly a man.
Most people look at the half part of Two and a Half men and assume it's in reference to the child character. I'm not sure it wasn't actually meant to reference the Alan Harper character as he truly is half a man.
It also struck me that even though it's not terribly old, it's a show that would never get out of concept today. Mainly because of how it treated women. Sadly people would still ignore the real pain of men. In real life an Alan Harper type would be a prime candidate to off himself. Yet in the show we just laugh at him. Can you imagine if they had reversed the roles and it was a woman who was getting divorced, kicked out of her house and being used for laughs? The feminist groups would go absolutely nuts.
You could actually argue that a show like Two and a Half men is far more relevant today than it was when it originally ran.
Any other TV shows that looking back in hindsight really predicted what would happen to men?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 11:24 am
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:19 am to 75247
South Park
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:19 am to 75247
The Facts of Life glorified Tootie.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:20 am to 75247
quote:You may get downvotes or called a simp about this, but it’s true.
It also struck me that even though it's not terribly old, it's a show that would never get out of concept today. Not because of how it treats men, but how it truly laughs at the true pain of men. In real life an Alan Harper type would be a prime candidate to off himself. Yet in the show we just laugh at him. Can you imagine if they had reversed the roles and it was a woman who was getting divorced, kicked out of her house and being used for laughs? The feminist groups would go absolutely nuts.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:21 am to 75247
Last Man Standing
Oh, and “Dear Diary….”
Oh, and “Dear Diary….”
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:22 am to 75247
The Big Bang Theory
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:24 am to 75247
X Minus One - "Venus Is A Man's World" (1957)
Radio drmtization of William Tenn's novel. 150 years in the future, women rule because of their greater ability to use and understand logic, while men can't be trusted to be anything other than emotional.
Radio drmtization of William Tenn's novel. 150 years in the future, women rule because of their greater ability to use and understand logic, while men can't be trusted to be anything other than emotional.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:24 am to 75247
quote:
I'm not sure it wasn't actually meant to reference the Alan Harper character as he truly is half a man.
Pretty interesting and accurate take.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:25 am to 75247
If anything, Sunny predicted what burnout 30 something year olds would be like today.
Generally vein, horrible, narcissistic people who refuse to get out of a manchild state.
Generally vein, horrible, narcissistic people who refuse to get out of a manchild state.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:25 am to phutureisyic
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I'm not sure it wasn't actually meant to reference the Alan Harper character as he truly is half a man.
The son is the half man due to age and height you moog. Lmao.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:26 am to jimbeam
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You may get downvotes or called a simp about this, but it’s true.
I realized that I mistyped some of that paragraph and corrected it but the core message is true. It's truly amazing how women scream if a woman character isn't treated as some goddess who can do no wrong but yet the men are always bumbling idiots who would fall apart without a woman. And if straight men complain about how straight men are portrayed on TV it's always man up (which is just shut up, your emotion isn't valid and we reject it) or just flat out shut up.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:28 am to 75247
Married with Children is the first show I remember that made fun of this phenomenon.
John Cryer's character got to partially escape his bitch wife and worthless kid and live in a beach house in Malibu.
Al Bundy was chained for life to his terrible family and job.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:29 am to 75247
All the dudes on Friends were fricking pussies
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:29 am to A Smoke Break
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he son is the half man due to age and height you moog. Lmao.
I understand that but honestly it's more Alan Harper who's truly the half man. I didn't watch the series much after Charlie Sheen left (I don't think anyone really did) but obviously Charlie was a real man and even the kid character as he grows up becomes more of a man than Alan. If I remember correctly the kid character even goes into the military at some point. I'm not sure if it wasn't just a creative play. People assume that the half man part references the kid but really it's far more appropriate for Alan. I know, thinking too much into it.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:30 am to 75247
Ohhh the poor middle aged white man… 
We live such a horrible existance, we should all sky scream in unison so our voices are heard… I’m literally shaking right now from all the hate directed at us
We live such a horrible existance, we should all sky scream in unison so our voices are heard… I’m literally shaking right now from all the hate directed at us
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:31 am to SuperSaint
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Ohhh the poor middle aged white man…
Meh
quote:
We live such a horrible existance, we should all sky scream in unison so our voices are heard… I’m literally shaking right now from all the hate directed at us
Only victims feel this way. Real men don't give a shite and live their lives.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:32 am to AUFANATL
quote:
Married with Children is the first show I remember that made fun of this phenomenon.
John Cryer's character got to partially escape his bitch wife and worthless kid and live in a beach house in Malibu.
Al Bundy was chained for life to his terrible family and job.
Very true. That show really was the architype for a lot of shows that came later on. Al Bundy was truly a character that would've offed himself in real life.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:34 am to SuperSaint
quote:
Ohhh the poor middle aged white man…
We live such a horrible existance, we should all sky scream in unison so our voices are heard… I’m literally shaking right now from all the hate directed at us
Tell this to men who get to go through divorce courts and essentially lose everything. And those same middle aged white men are the ones who get screwed in particular.
There's a reason that mental health is so poor among middle aged white men and why so many, especially in poorer areas (but not limited to poor areas) like Appalachia, off themselves.
The point is our society would never use the ills of modern women for a show to poke fun of them, but yet we gladly do it for men.
Never mind that many of these shows have accurately predicted that men would become emasculated hollow souls who are basically b*tches to their wife.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:41 am to OweO
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The Big Bang Theory
I don't know if I completely agree with this one. Yes the women are the ones in control and the guys are emasculated nerds (like a lot of modern men) but at the end of the day all of the guys (outside of Raj) end up with women well above their level. And even Raj ended up dating women like Emily, in real life a guy like Raj never even gets close to a woman like Emily. Never mind in real life Leonard never gets a woman like Penny and Howard never gets a woman like Bernadette (who is actually hot in real life, they had to nerd her up for the show). The only relationship on Big Bang Theory that was relatively accurate to real life was Sheldon and Amy.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:45 am to 75247
Three's company is the first show I remember thinking "that guy is kinda weird".
Always seemed like a gay guy pretending to be a straight guy instead of the other way around.
Always seemed like a gay guy pretending to be a straight guy instead of the other way around.
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