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Any lingering concerns for pitchers?

Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Cigar
Member since May 2021
1032 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:23 pm
With the series being a Sat-Mon Series, are there any concerns for our pitching staff?

Alittle more rest than we expected!

All extra pitching done. Does that hurt us any?
Does the rotation change?

Labas struggled after that last 120+ game
Marceaux pitched extra pitches (Bull pen day)(draft stock going up)
Hilliard pitching Twice
Coleman extending
Etc....
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5229 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:25 pm to
I think it sets up great. You’ll have Marceaux with 4 days of rest. Hilliard/Labas with 5 (assuming one of them goes Sunday). Good situation.

Also, gotta hope Coleman can continue with the same confidence he had Sunday.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted by CWILKS3
Covington
Member since Apr 2020
914 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:28 pm to
Hilliard had a more realistic bullpen day than Marceaux. I think we should start Hilliard on Saturday considering how much Marceaux had to battle, plus the little run support we have given Marceaux on Friday nights. You can save him for game 2 then have Labas for game 3 if it gets to that point. Other than that, we should be good to go. Got to find out who else you can count on in big moments
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
16303 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:28 pm to
I wonder if we throw Labas for game 1 since he’s the only starter that’ll have proper rest, and he’s the Saturday guy anyways
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6197 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Hilliard had a more realistic bullpen day than Marceaux. I think we should start Hilliard on Saturday considering how much Marceaux had to battle, plus the little run support we have given Marceaux on Friday nights. You can save him for game 2 then have Labas for game 3 if it gets to that point. Other than that, we should be good to go. Got to find out who else you can count on in big moments




I agree with all of this. Four days rest is normal for major league guys, not for college guys. They have to go to the minors and work into that schedule, gradually. So, given how many pitches Marceaux just threw on two days rest after throwing over 100, I think pitching him on 4 days rest would be an even worse idea than normal. Hilliard didn't throw a terrible amount of pitches on Saturday, and then threw only one inning last night. I think he's perfectly set up to go on Saturday, and it's not like you risk something by not throwing your ace in game 1 of a super regional. There's no losers bracket, and Hilliard is no less likely to lose game one as he would be to lose game two. It should be an easy decision.

Everyone else who threw this weekend gets plenty of rest now, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Posted by Cigar
Member since May 2021
1032 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:43 pm to
I’d think Marceaux’s bull pen session is minimum 40 pitches.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9755 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:49 pm to
Marceaux will likely be ready for Saturday.

Hilliard and Labas are the options for Saturday if Landon needs an extra day. I thought both of them looked good in spurts - they just need to put it all together against Tennessee.

Coleman is now a great option in the pen. Edwards and Hellmers are also really good options. Trent has shown that he can eat up some outs. Fontenot is obviously a good back end.

I have concerns with Floyd, since he cannot find his breaking ball. I'm on the fence with Fowler - he's good in spurts. We really need a situational lefty outside of Coleman - Hasty, Brady, and Kaminer have not proven to be the guy but maybe one will emerge in Knoxville. Money and Millas haven't pitched in nearly a month, so I don't trust them.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

There's no losers bracket, and Hilliard is no less likely to lose game one as he would be to lose game two
But do we maybe try to counter the UT pitching? If Hilliard is our 2nd best option, do we start him vs UT’s #3 guy for Game3 If it gets to that point? Basically, do we throw Hilliard vs UT ace? Or UT #3.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9755 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:55 pm to
You have to play game 1 like you don't have a game 3. If Landon is ready, it's Landon. If Landon's not ready, you use your 2nd best option - I'm on the fence between Hilliard and Labas as #2, so I'd throw the guy with the most rest.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28890 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:57 pm to
I would throw Labas against their ace. He’ll be on full rest and when he’s own he can shutdown anyone’s lineup. If he struggles you still have Marceaux and Hilliard to pitch opposite Tennessee’s 2nd and 3rd starters. I like that matchup.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6197 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

I’d think Marceaux’s bull pen session is minimum 40 pitches.


Not high stress pitches, and he was also warming up for a couple of innings. If live pitching could be compared to bullpen sessions, coaches would throw their aces out there to start or finish games on their bullpen day all the time.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by jeauxburrow
Member since Sep 2020
30 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I’d think Marceaux’s bull pen session is minimum 40 pitches.


Right, but those are 40 low stress pitches. How many do you think he actually threw last night? 46 high stress, another 25 at least warming up before innings, probably 20-30 in the bullpen before he came in. Much more work than a normal bullpen day.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
30168 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:09 pm to
Sure there are concerns that the extra work these past 4 days taxed them. But it's not something one can worry about because if they didn't push the pitching staff they wouldn't be playing.

It's not ideal...but it's better than not playing at all
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6197 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

But do we maybe try to counter the UT pitching? If Hilliard is our 2nd best option, do we start him vs UT’s #3 guy for Game3 If it gets to that point? Basically, do we throw Hilliard vs UT ace? Or UT #3.


I think we definitely should not start Marceaux game 1, and as far as any other match ups go, there really isn't a logical argument, that I can think of, as to why anyone would want to save one of their top two guys for game three. I understand the sentiment of what you're saying, but it sends a bad message to your team, in my opinion, that you're playing for a game three, when you could just win it in two.

If we were talking about this past weekend and saving your better pitchers for the better teams, I think that is a good strategy. But this is a different situation.
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
4411 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:17 pm to
I want to say Hilliard came in in relief the first or second game of the Tenn series and gave them 3-4 innings and only gave up 1 or 2 hits. One was a bomb, but other than that I want to say he did a pretty good job.
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