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re: Are orchestral conductors full of shite?

Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:52 am to
Posted by johnqpublic
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:52 am to
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One question: it seems like there are a lot of people that don't get an opportunity to change the page because they never really stop playing. Do they have the entire performance memorized? Do they have the notes printed smaller so that they don't have to change pages?


If it is strings, there are two players per desk (although basses may be 1 per stand), the inside player handles page turns. In addition, if the copyist is worth their salt, they do everything they can to put page turns in an area that causes the least interruption. Don't put a page turn in a long crazy run for example. Also, they will have at least 2 pages open at a time (if the parts are accordion style, they may have more). Barring that, yes, if they have played the piece a lot, they may memorize a bar or so.

Here's Barenboim conducting the Ninth with no score. All from memory. You can also see some of the parts on the stand. Yu can see how much they can see at once.

The 9th
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 1:07 am to
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Here's Barenboim conducting the Ninth with no score. All from memory. You can also see some of the parts on the stand. Yu can see how much they can see at once.

The 9th



I have a million questions to ask right now, but I'll stick with one that I probably can't Google. In that video, everyone but the conductor looks like they're in their 20s. Are they all from some college? Is it the best musical college on the planet?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 7:38 am to
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If it is strings, there are two players per desk (although basses may be 1 per stand), the inside player handles page turns. In addition, if the copyist is worth their salt, they do everything they can to put page turns in an area that causes the least interruption. Don't put a page turn in a long crazy run for example. Also, they will have at least 2 pages open at a time (if the parts are accordion style, they may have more). Barring that, yes, if they have played the piece a lot, they may memorize a bar or so.

Are tablets a thing for professional orchestras? I know there are some pretty lightweight, silent Bluetooth page turners (pedals) that are marketed towards musicians, but I’ve always wondered whether professionals who actually need page turners are using them.
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