re: How long before they start cracking down on TRT

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I don’t care wether people are on TRT or not, nor do I care if they’re abusing it. That’s not the point of this thread. Like I said previously, if I was middle aged and didn’t have to worry about fertility I’d be all over it myself.

It was an honest question. Usually as things become abused in the medical field, more stringent control falls in place.

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true trt is already extremely controlled and stringent

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I’m no doctor but I do know that testosterone injections are free test. Free test is a huge driver of hypertrophy. When you inject, your free test spikes, later being converted into things like SHBG, DHT, Estrogen etc. and the blood test often occur a few days after injections so that this huge spike in free test has already passed and will not be reflected in the results.

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well thats for god damn sure because thats not how that works, not how any of it works. the test you inject is no different than what you produce except it has an ester attached usually in the form of the enanthate or cypionate to slow the diggestion of the test and to mimick more of a natural blood saturation levels. Its not "free test" as you are calling it, nor is it test on top of what you are already producing as that stops when you start the injections.

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the blood test often occur a few days after injections so that this huge spike in free test has already passed and will not be reflected in the results.

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usually with trt you are using the enanthate or cypionate ester. peak blood concentration levels happen between 48-72 hours after the injection. Proper TRT protocol has you taking the shot every 72 or 96 hours (twice weekly) so the peak is very miniscule. But even if some one is on once a month, sure they get a very large spike out of the range but they also spend much of that month well under range. I.E it balances out.

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I don’t think that you can consider someone on trt and someone natural on the same playing field even if their blood work looks similar.

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the absolute only advantage someone on trt has over someone natural with the same levels would be much less peaks and valleys and serum levels would be more steady. But i do not consider myself a natural for that reason, but there should be very little difference between true trt and someone natural.

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This along with a good bit of anecdotal evidence is enough for me to believe that there is a significant difference between someone on TRT that tests within the natural T threshold vs someone’s that actually has natural T levels.

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your anecdotal evidence is more than likely almost exclusively based on those claiming to be using trt and abusing it.

Like i said very little difference between true trt and natural trainee. Steroids or those with out of range blood levels....or those with the test levels of an 18 year old while in their late 40s...yea that is different.

beleive what you want, but your opinion is based on bullshite in general. And i dont mean that as an insult, like so many things in this industry people are deceiving fricks. Mainly because they have been forced to be due to legal purposes and pussies that get their feelings hurt because someone is bigger. So they have to protect thier reputations, even the family guy with an office job, so they lie and say they are on TRT when they are on grams of gear.