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re: Tayer Hansen: On "Who killed Ashli Babbitt?"
Posted on 5/20/21 at 6:30 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/20/21 at 6:30 pm to the808bass
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I’m intrigued by three separate supposed barristers defending police shooting an unarmed women who posed no imminent threat to anyone in the same thread.
Fascinating.
All with not a single legal argument.
It's a somewhat subjective determination. Generally, lethal force is justified if the officer has a reasonable belief that lethal force is necessary to prevent imminent death or serious injury. The cops there behind that door (and around the entire Capitol) were extremely outnumbered. Had that door gone down, a flood of people would have come through putting the lives of the members of congress in danger.
Again, it's very sad all the way around. Given the totality of the circumstances though, I can understand the fear of that crowd overrunning them as soon as one person started to come through.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 6:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It's a somewhat subjective determination. Generally, lethal force is justified if the officer has a reasonable belief that lethal force is necessary to prevent imminent death or serious injury. The cops there behind that door (and around the entire Capitol) were extremely outnumbered. Had that door gone down, a flood of people would have come through putting the lives of the members of congress in danger.
Sure. Then we have to take every police officers word when they say they feared for their lives. If it's subjective who are you to tell a cop they aren't afraid for their life?
Posted on 5/20/21 at 6:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It's a somewhat subjective determination. Generally, lethal force is justified if the officer has a reasonable belief that lethal force is necessary to prevent imminent death or serious injury.
In a non-politicized setting where justice was a concern, that cop is facing charges. It’s not that subjective. His actions didn’t meet the Capitol police use of force policy.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 6:52 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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. Had that door gone down, a flood of people would have come through putting the lives of the members of congress in danger.
Try shooting someone outside your closed door and then say “if they came in I might be in danger” and see how quickly you are found guilty of murder.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:24 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I can understand the fear
What would a reasonable man do?
Seeing how the other officers didn't fire their weapons, a reasonable man would not have shot her.
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