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re: I keep hearing Adams is a huge issue with us giving up the 3...
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:59 am to duyp
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:59 am to duyp
Man Adams sits for 4 games, 3 of which Billy dominates and I feel like some of yall are already forgetting how bad he is. Adams is a minimum contract guy at this point. Some are really jumping through some serious hoops to justify the 3yr 65 mil we are paying him when he can’t defend more than half the centers in the league, can’t switch onto any 3 or below in the league, shoots 40% from the line, and is very iffy finishing around the basket.
I’m sure he’s a great guy that’s decent in the locker room and maybe he’s helped Jaxson, but he surely hasn’t helped us win and he will not help us win moving forward.
I’m sure he’s a great guy that’s decent in the locker room and maybe he’s helped Jaxson, but he surely hasn’t helped us win and he will not help us win moving forward.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:02 am
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:06 am to 3PieceSpicy
Man, I really thought the Jrue trade was just the ultimate swindling of a team in the Bucks with how much they gave us.
But the negative assets that Bledsoe and Adams are, especially with his extension, really offset the value we got in draft assets.
Obviously it all depends on where some of those draft picks down the line will fall, but the 2 players we got back and their contracts are really, really bad for us right now.
We would have been infinitely better off getting Adams but not resigning him and letting his salary come off the books, then keeping George Hill instead of Bledsoe. We've all been screaming all year that Bled shouldn't be playing and getting our youngsters reps, well an injured Hill would have accomplished just that, and I think he only has like $1mil of his salary guaranteed next season, so if I understand it, he'll come off teh books 1 year before Bled.
Instead of having Adams/Hill both come off the books this offseason, which would be awesome, we now have 2 more years of Adams and 1 more of Bledsoe. Completely trainwreck there, and a few of us called it in the moment.
But the negative assets that Bledsoe and Adams are, especially with his extension, really offset the value we got in draft assets.
Obviously it all depends on where some of those draft picks down the line will fall, but the 2 players we got back and their contracts are really, really bad for us right now.
We would have been infinitely better off getting Adams but not resigning him and letting his salary come off the books, then keeping George Hill instead of Bledsoe. We've all been screaming all year that Bled shouldn't be playing and getting our youngsters reps, well an injured Hill would have accomplished just that, and I think he only has like $1mil of his salary guaranteed next season, so if I understand it, he'll come off teh books 1 year before Bled.
Instead of having Adams/Hill both come off the books this offseason, which would be awesome, we now have 2 more years of Adams and 1 more of Bledsoe. Completely trainwreck there, and a few of us called it in the moment.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:17 am to 3PieceSpicy
I’m not trying to justify it. But I can see why we picked up Adams. We lost Favors and needed a replacement while Hayes develop. 17 million was a great value for a small market team and for a starter. The things he excels at is rebounding and setting screens. I thought he will be here to do the dirty work, keep zion clean and set hard screens. But it seems like that’s not the case. However his contract isn’t that bad to where it can not be traded to another team who might look for those things.
The Bledsoe trade was a big oof on Griffin part though. I wish we had Hill over Bledsoe. But maybe the picks can be something valuable. We did justice for Jrue when he wanted to be traded and also saved ourselves from giving him that huge contract and letting him go for nothing.
The Bledsoe trade was a big oof on Griffin part though. I wish we had Hill over Bledsoe. But maybe the picks can be something valuable. We did justice for Jrue when he wanted to be traded and also saved ourselves from giving him that huge contract and letting him go for nothing.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:33 am to 3PieceSpicy
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but he surely hasn’t helped us win and he will not help us win moving forward.
that's just simply not true.
I'm not arguing we overpaid for him, twice, but don't sit here and say he hasn't helped us win. He's the reason we beat the Bucks and the 76ers just off the top of my head.
Our ORTG is higher with him on, but the DRTG is pretty much the same level worst with him on. His NetRtg is -0.4 which is pretty negligible.
we are a better OREB, DREB and Total rebounding team with him on.
He has a positive 1.9 net rating when playing with the starters, and 1.8 net rating when NAW replaces Lonzo in that lineup and a positive 13.8 net rating with Hart replaces Zion in the starting lineup. That's the 3 most played lineups for Adams, making up over 50% of his playing time on the year.
I have no problem moving him in the offseason if we can bring in a significant upgrade at the 5 position that works with Zion better. I also think that if you replace Lonzo and Bledsoe with guys that can shoot the 3 and defend the perimeter better, then you'll see a more useful Adams. The person he has the highest net rating with as a 2 man combo was JJ, at a good bit more than everyone else on the team and JJ didn't even have play that good for most of the season.
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