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Florida Supreme Court: Voters too dumb to vote on recreational marijuana ballot initiative
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:36 pm
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The summary’s unqualified use of the word “permits” strongly suggests that the conduct to be authorized by the amendment will be free of any criminal or civil penalty in Florida,” the majority held
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This reasoning is curious, because the summary explicitly states that it will legalize marijuana “under Florida law,” not federal law. And in 2014, the Florida Supreme Court held that a ballot summary about medical marijuana need not inform voters about an amendment’s impact on federal law, only state law. But on Thursday, without acknowledging it, the court quietly overruled this precedent. It declared that this summary “strongly suggests that the conduct to be authorized by the amendment will be free of any criminal or civil penalty in Florida.” Put differently, voters will think that, by amending their state constitution, they are somehow repealing or suspending the federal ban on marijuana. That, the court concluded, renders the initiative unlawful.
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Two justices—Jorge Labarga, a moderate, and Alan Lawson, a conservative—dissented. Lawson’s dissent is quite sharp: He condemned the majority opinion as “contrary to rational analysis,” a “non sequitur” that “violates basic principles of logic.” The court typically takes “a nonpaternalistic approach to our review, expecting voters to educate themselves regarding the details of a proposed amendment before voting.” It “presumes that voters possess a rudimentary knowledge of their government’s structure and of the laws governing their conduct.” That is especially true when citizens participate in the “core right of self-governance” by voting to amend their state constitution.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Well voters are too dumb but it shouldnt be selectively applied to this
Should apply to presidential elections as well
Should apply to presidential elections as well
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Who challenged the law?
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:40 pm to JohnnyKilroy
3 of the 5 no votes were appointees by TD's favorite governor. Last week he brought us a new sales tax, that goes directly to pay costs for businesses.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:41 pm to MoarKilometers
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Last week he brought us a new sales tax
Consumption taxes like sales tax dont bother me so much, everybody pays their share
frick income tax
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:41 pm to Motorboat
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Who challenged the law?
Florida’s AG
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:43 pm to MoarKilometers
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3 of the 5 no votes were appointees by TD's favorite governor.
Yeah marijuana policy is always a strike against conservatives. Instead of taking a libertarian, freedom-favoring view, conservatives side with law enforcement and traditional war on drugs bullshite.
Of course on balance it’s all still preferable to what leftists offer.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:44 pm to Cosmo
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Consumption taxes like sales tax dont bother me, everybody pays their share
When they're diverted from the general tax fund pool to cover unemployment taxes businesses should pay on their employees... and later will be used to cover commercial rental taxes businesses aren't ponying up for, I'm out as a supporter.
The unemployment tax would've cost employers $42 a year per employee. A meager 2 cents per hour. Now I'm dropping an extra 6 cents on every dollar I spend online. frick that.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:45 pm to MoarKilometers
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Last week he brought us a new sales tax, that goes directly to pay costs for businesses.
Do you have a link to this. I’d like to read about it.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:46 pm to MoarKilometers
You're still pissed this dude lost, huh?


Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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You're still pissed this dude lost, huh?
Not in the slightest. Because Desantis does stupid shite I'm now a Gillum supporter?
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:51 pm to CaTiger85
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Do you have a link to this. I’d like to read about it.
LINK to an article on it
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"Revenue generated by the tax is first earmarked for the unemployment trust fund, which became depleted because of massive job losses during the COVID-19 pandemic. Businesses pay taxes that go into the trust fund and, without another source of money, would have faced higher taxes to replenish the fund."
"After the fund is replenished, the revenue will be used to make a major cut in the commercial-rent tax, long a target of business lobbying groups. Senate President Wilton Simpson, R-Trilby, and House Speaker Chris Sprowls, R-Palm Harbor, agreed to reduce the commercial rent tax from 5.5% to 2%."
Unemployment tax cost went from a paltry $7 per employee to a business killing $49. Literally 2 cents an hour is their justification to gobble up 6 cents on every e dollar.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
It’s “high time” to get this issue over with. Marijuana should be legal. Any argument about why marijuana shouldn’t be legal can be said about alcohol... not to mention prescription pills that wreak havoc on our society.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:53 pm to MoarKilometers
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Because Desantis does stupid shite I'm now a Gillum supporter?
Yes. It is well established TD law that if you don’t suck one politician’s dick, you obviously suck off his opponent.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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expecting voters to educate themselves regarding the details of a proposed amendment before voting.” It “presumes that voters possess a rudimentary knowledge of their government’s structure and of the laws governing their conduct.”
Male landowners do this. They’re about the only ones.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 4:55 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Yes. It is well established TD law that if you don’t suck one politician’s dick, you obviously suck off his opponent.
Posted on 4/22/21 at 5:22 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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if you don’t suck one politician’s dick, you obviously suck off his opponent.
A lot of dick sucking to be done
Posted on 4/22/21 at 5:24 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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suck one politician’s dick,
Obviously another Gillum fan, I see.
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