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Looking for a baseball ruling
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:19 pm
Situation:
13U baseball. Runners on 1st and 3rd. The runner at 1st breaks for a steal early right as the pitcher comes set. As the runner breaks, the pitcher sees it and turns to throw to 1st. The pitcher sees the runner already halfway to 2nd so they don't throw to first and instead throws to 2nd and the runner is called out.
Our coach argued that it was a balk since the pitcher didn't make the throw to 1st. The umps ruled that the pitcher stepped off the rubber first before making the move to 1st so they could throw wherever they wanted. Its my understanding that is true for any base except for 1st. If the pitcher makes a move to 1st, they have to throw it or its a balk.
Whats the correct ruling?
13U baseball. Runners on 1st and 3rd. The runner at 1st breaks for a steal early right as the pitcher comes set. As the runner breaks, the pitcher sees it and turns to throw to 1st. The pitcher sees the runner already halfway to 2nd so they don't throw to first and instead throws to 2nd and the runner is called out.
Our coach argued that it was a balk since the pitcher didn't make the throw to 1st. The umps ruled that the pitcher stepped off the rubber first before making the move to 1st so they could throw wherever they wanted. Its my understanding that is true for any base except for 1st. If the pitcher makes a move to 1st, they have to throw it or its a balk.
Whats the correct ruling?
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:21 pm to The Next
If he stepped off first then yes, he can throw it to any base.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:22 pm to The Next
If he stepped off first, he can throw where the wants, no balk.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:23 pm to The Next
Has to step off. If he did it's legal. If not it's throwing to an unoccupied base which is illegal. As long as you step off the rubber you can arm fake, not make a throw, etc.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:25 pm to The Next
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Our coach argued that it was a balk since the pitcher didn't make the throw to 1st.
Get a new coach. If he steps off he can throw to any base. If he’s a left handed pitcher and steps towards first without stepping off the rubber then it’s a balk.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:29 pm to The Next
If you step off the rubber your can throw it anywhere you want
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This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:29 pm to BigPerm30
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Get a new coach. If he steps off he can throw to any base. If he’s a left handed pitcher and steps towards first without stepping off the rubber then it’s a balk.
Yeah Coach, I.E. OP, needs to learn baseball 101 rules if he wants to coach kids
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:30 pm to The Boat
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Also lefties don't have to throw to 1st and can make a move without throwing and without stepping off but I'm guessing it was a right handed pitcher
I don't think that's correct.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:31 pm to The Boat
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Also lefties don't have to throw to 1st and can make a move without throwing and without stepping off but I'm guessing it was a right handed pitcher
It depends on the league
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:32 pm to BigPerm30
It's already the weekend and I'm a couple of miller high lifes deep so I ain't worried about it
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:32 pm to The Next
quote:
Situation:
13U baseball.
Sounds electric.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:35 pm to Eat Your Crow
If it ain't being played at Drillers Diamond it ain't real youth baseball
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:45 pm to The Next
You were playing us. He didn’t step off... we got lucky
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:01 pm to The Next
quote:
Our coach argued that it was a balk since the pitcher didn't make the throw to 1st. The umps ruled that the pitcher stepped off the rubber first before making the move to 1st so they could throw wherever they wanted. Its my understanding that is true for any base except for 1st. If the pitcher makes a move to 1st, they have to throw it or its a balk.
That's incorrect.
If the pitcher steps off the rubber, he does not have to throw to first.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:05 pm to BigPerm30
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Get a new coach.
I guess that shows how bad the umpires can be sometimes. A couple years earlier, the team (we weren't on it then) actually lost a game because of this exact situation and the umpires called a balk. How are coaches supposed to keep up?
Here's another wrinkle. I just started scouring the rule book and found this. When pitching from the stretch and the pitcher comes to a set position, they must come to a complete stop before delivering the ball. With the runner breaking as they were coming set, there was not enough time to come to that complete stop before the move was made.
Baseball rules can be so nuanced and subjective sometimes its fun to argue them.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:07 pm to The Next
It’s 13U baseball, so the answer is: who gives a flying frick?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:08 pm to The Next
Let it go. It ain’t gonna make poor Blakelyn any safer at second. Teach him to steal better.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:09 pm to The Next
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With the runner breaking as they were coming set, there was not enough time to come to that complete stop before the move was made.
That's simply not always the case.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:09 pm to gonzo03
Umpire here,
This^
and this^
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If he stepped off first, he can throw where the wants, no balk.
This^
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Has to step off. If he did it's legal. If not it's throwing to an unoccupied base which is illegal. As long as you step off the rubber you can arm fake, not make a throw, etc.
and this^
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:12 pm to The Next
Are you learning the rules of baseball for the first time?
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