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re: "Above the Fray" libertarians who white knight for everything Biden...

Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:52 am to
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If your actions violate the rights of others, it is legitimate to restrict or punish those actions.


And how do we decide what rights others have? By men and their opinions.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 11:56 am to
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And how do we decide what rights others have? By men and their opinions.
Agreed. A society makes that determination.

The very notion of "Divine Law" or "Natural Law" or "Inalienable Rights" is just silly superstition and/or high-minded rhetoric. The members of a society have the rights that the society has evolved to say that they have.


EDIT:
CS Lewis was a bright guy and certainly entitled to his opinions. He was also a product of his times. I respectfully disagree with his analysis, which I see as being little more than a tautology.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 12:14 pm to
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And how do we decide what rights others have? By men and their opinions.


If our rights are determined by man (and by extension government) those rights are not “inalienable.” What can be granted can be taken away.
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