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re: DoD inspector general opens ‘evaluation’ of Space Command move to Alabama
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:36 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:36 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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..plus HQs...for multiple services.
No they don't.
The only thing they have not Air Force is NORTHCOM, which is a COCOM that has absolutely nothing to do with the space mission.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:36 pm to llfshoals
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You really have no idea how the game is actually played.
OK big guy
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:37 pm to Perfect Circle
Putting it by or under Cheyenne Mountain is not a terrible idea.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:41 pm to BeepNode
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Putting it by or under Cheyenne Mountain is not a terrible idea.
What does this gain a major component headquarters?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:42 pm to Centinel
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The only thing they have not Air Force is NORTHCOM, which is a COCOM that has absolutely nothing to do with the space mission.
My comment was “Colorado has tons more...plus HQs...for multiple services.”
As in “much more space-related military infrastructure...plus a HQs”
Meaning that each state has a HQ related to Space, but Colorado has much more other space-related presence.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:43 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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As in “much more space-related military infrastructure...plus a HQs”
Meaning that each state has a HQ related to Space, but Colorado has much more other space-related presence.
Not at the HQ level. Which is what we're discussing. And Huntsville has much more room for expansion, a lower cost of living, and a larger talent pool to draw from. Not to mention a much larger presence of all the major aerospace defense contractors.
Which is why Huntsville was selected.
ETA: Colorado Springs has the Air Force's Space Command, and the Air Force's NORAD.
Huntsville has the Army's Space and Missile Defense Command, the Missile Defense Agency, and the Missile and Space Intelligence Component, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
If you want to include non-strictly space mission, it also has the Army Material Command, Aviation and Missile Command, and PEO Missile and Space.
Oh, and the Aviation and Missile Research, Development and Engineering Center (AMRDEC).
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:48 pm to Mizzoufan26
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Colorado made more sense anyways though due to the mass amount of space capes there, was surprised when Alabama was announced
This makes you look like a total moron.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:01 pm to Centinel
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What does this gain a major component headquarters?
There seems to be confusion about what it means to run something like this. People running operations and the HQ itself doesn't need to be where production and training bases are. Ideally, they would be spread out a bit.
Anyway, Cheyenne Mountain being in the middle of the country is good because it is harder to breach and you can still operate under Cheyenne Mountain even in a nuclear war.
Space Command was already in Colorado Springs. Space Force operations is not new. They've been performing these functions for a while now. It is just a re-organization of the military.
NORAD is already there.
The 21st Space Wing is already there.
The Missile Warning Center is already there.
This is a very sunny region of the country, higher altitude, with fairly clear skies. You could certainly do worse.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:04 pm to BeepNode
This is our Space Mountain.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:07 pm to BeepNode
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here seems to be confusion about what it means to run something like this. People running operations and the HQ itself doesn't need to be where production and training bases are. Ideally, they would be spread out a bit.
Yes, which again is why Huntsville was chosen.
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Space Command was already in Colorado Springs. Space Force operations is not new. They've been performing these functions for a while now. It is just a re-organization of the military.
Read my other posts. Space Command was operating one function of a multi-function warfighting domain that US Space Force was created to consolidate under one command.
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NORAD is already there.
Space and Missile Defense Command is already in Huntsville.
Missile Defense Agency is already in Huntsville.
Missile and Space Intelligence Component, DIA, is already in Huntsville.
All the major aerospace defense contractors are already in Huntsville, in larger numbers than Colorado Springs.
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This is a very sunny region of the country, higher altitude, with fairly clear skies. You could certainly do worse.
And you can certainly do better. Hence Huntsville.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:19 pm to Centinel
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Space and Missile Defense Command is already in Huntsville.
The secondary site is in Colorado. Plus Colorado has NORAD and a fricking mountain.
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Missile Defense Agency is already in Huntsville.
I suspect you may be biased. MDA uses Huntsville for field activities and testing. Their HQ is in DC, and the brains of their operations are run out of Colorado Springs at Schriever Air Force Base, which is why its easier to stay there.
Huntsville would continue to provide testing sites, R&D, and support for the Space Force.
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Missile and Space Intelligence Component, DIA, is already in Huntsville.
The major operational command activities for this are performed at the Pentagon. The MSIC is somewhat narrow in scope as to what they are allowed to research and provide technical know-how on.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:20 pm to BeepNode
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The secondary site is in Colarado.
The headquarters is in Huntsville.
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Their HQ is in DC
They have a skeleton crew in Fort Belvoir in the DC area. The majority of the command, by far, is in Huntsville.
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and the brains of their operations are run out of Colorado Springs
No, it's not.
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The major operational command activities for this are performed at the Pentagon. The MSIC is somewhat narrow in scope as to what they are allowed to research and provide technical know-how on.
And still more of a function carried out in Huntsville compared to Colorado Springs.
And you again ignore the cost of living, larger talent pool, and larger aerospace defense presence.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:40 pm to Centinel
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No, their HQ is in Huntsville.
No, it is not. Look at their website.
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:41 pm to BeepNode
Funny how you completely ignored the very first paragraph ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:46 pm to Centinel
You've convinced me to be 100% on board with having Space Force HQ in Colorado.
To twitter I go.
To twitter I go.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:47 pm to BeepNode
Your deflection is noted.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:49 pm to Centinel
The tweet has been made. Its over now, baw.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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And that never made any sense.
True, Vandenberg AFB would make most sense, access to launch pads and the Joint Space Command Op Center is already there. Plus tons of land to expand if needed.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:56 pm to AubieinNC2009
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True, Vandenberg AFB would make most sense
I'd actually 100% agree with you. If it wasn't in California.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:59 pm to Centinel
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If it wasn't in California.
Served there as a LT, great base and local area but outside of about an hour radius it sucks.
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