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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by burger bearcat
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:05 am
LINK rumble

This might not be the message some want to hear... but really provides some clarity. The right resorting to violence right now will never achieve the results we want.

We are still in an ideological war, but a violent war will not end well for conservatives. At least not right now. The left has all the levers of power, and most importantly they also have public opinion on their side currently.

The left has us beat somewhere between about 53 to 47 - at the moment in public opinion. The goal for the next 4 years is to flip that back. It might take some grinding and plenty of roadblocks from the new administration and big tech, but once we get that real and lasting change can begin.

The dagger right now is Trump's name is going to be tarnished from what happened at the Capitol, and now that momentum and any chance of Trump leading from the outside is not as good.(precisely why violence won't achieve the results we want) There will have to be other new faces to take the torch.

I am commiting to get involved in multiple ways in my community and through political and conservative organizations. Giving up my weekends and time after work in the week. Whatever it takes.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:07 am to
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and most importantly they also have public opinion on their side currently.


According to what metric or outlet?
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4205 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:07 am to
The problem with leftist ideologies is that you can’t change their minds.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:09 am to
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I am commiting to get involved in multiple ways in my community and through political and conservative organizations. Giving up my weekends and time after work in the week. Whatever it takes.


This is the answer.

It’s not voting or violence.

It’s organization, demonstrating, and demanding change as gay as it sounds. It doesn’t matter if we are losing in the court of public opinion. It doesn’t take a majority to win. It just takes a larger VOCAL majority to win.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13653 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:09 am to
While I agree with you that stepping up our own conservative activism is paramount, it's just not possible in some places.

In our county, there is basically no Republican Party left. Really!

So, for us, it's either move (to where and to what jobs?) or be active on a different level, also somewhat murky.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4796 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:10 am to
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most importantly they also have public opinion on their side currently.



I don’t believe that to be true at all. They just successfully unhooked our microphone, I truly believe the election was a historic landslide.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:10 am to
I can’t see 250k liberal democrats showing up in Washington for a president that “lost”

It wa evident in all the rally’s this year.

I never believe the enthusiasm of Biden was there.... certainly not at the tune of 81.2 million.
Maybe I’m wrong.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:11 am to
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According to what metric or outlet?



According to the ability to broadcast that metric. #1984
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:12 am to
No one threaten to shut rumble down yet?
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:14 am to
you believe those polls that the left makes. it's really 65-35 America first. The tail has been wagging the dog by fixing elections for a while now.
Posted by Reservoir Ag
Member since Dec 2020
3574 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:15 am to
Agreed.... are the election pollsters the same group measuring public opinion?

Personally, I don’t give a fck if 60% of Americans want socialism or communism... I am not willing to bend my knee to these tyrants.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:15 am to
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I don’t believe that to be true at all. They just successfully unhooked our microphone, I truly believe the election was a historic landslide.


I think Trump won the EC, but can't say for sure on the pop vote. Maybe I am misguided, but it has seemed since Bill Clinton the left has had a slight edge on us thanks to the media, Hollywood, and education shoving progressivism down everyone's throats.

Good news is Hollywood sucks now, as do liberal comedians. Entertainment may be making a push from the right soon.
Posted by GulagInmate 24601
Member since Jan 2021
14 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:17 am to
Exactly. If what Bongino, Shapiro, etc aim to do actually worked, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:18 am to
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ou believe those polls that the left makes. it's really 65-35 America first. The tail has been wagging the dog by fixing elections for a while now.



Well I guess we will never know. Either way, its not enough right now. In all honesty we should be like 90-10 on this shite.

Public opinion needs to be improved for conservativism, because it works and always beats leftism on principles.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:20 am to
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The right resorting to violence right now will never achieve the results we want.


When legal means are subverted , ignored and corruptly circumvented, it may be the only means to avert tyranny.

Democrats are overt tyrants.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33380 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:32 am to
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It’s not voting or violence.

It’s organization, demonstrating, and demanding change as gay as it sounds. It doesn’t matter if we are losing in the court of public opinion. It doesn’t take a majority to win. It just takes a larger VOCAL majority to win.


You’ll know within three months if organization, demonstrating, and demanding change will even be possible under this authoritarian regime.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:32 am to
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Exactly. If what Bongino, Shapiro, etc aim to do actually worked, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.


It works. The left has eaten our lunch on activism. We of course have to raise kids, go to work, and run our businesses... while they have the advantage of working only 20 hours a week at Starbucks with just a cat at home... so the right has to dig un and work harder on it.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:39 am to
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When legal means are subverted , ignored and corruptly circumvented, it may be the only means to avert tyranny.

Democrats are overt tyrants


Listen if there was a legit chance to win this country on the battlefield... I would go out there and put my life on the line for the cause with everyone else. But this is a hard truth to take, that avenue isn't there right now. Maybe later on it is, but 01-06 has turned out to be nothing more than a tragedy of lost life and black eye for the MAGA movement going forward and green light for all kinds of other crazy bullshite they will shove down our throats with the media cheering them on. You don't win by losing.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 9:40 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
80138 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:40 am to
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It’s organization, demonstrating, and demanding change as gay as it sounds.



wasn't that just tried on Wednesday?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:43 am to
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The problem with leftist ideologies is that you can’t change their minds


You really think half the country really likes leftist ideology? Its 25% at best, but the other 25% are sort of brainwashed that Democrats are moderate or something. Remember hearing "is Kamala too conservative"?
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