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The Phelps vs Tiger SITUATION
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:12 am
I just got on and was reading some of the thoughts of some of the posters on the board. Some are so off target its not even funny. I am a HUGE fan of both of these guys. They are probably 1/2 on my list. I dont think this is even a close competition. Tiger Woods is way ahead of Phelps. I am not saying Phelps doesnt dominate swimming. I guess you could call him the Tiger Woods of swimming. But he is not the most dominating athlete. If you want to start making comparisons like this, then you have to bring guys like Shaun White(snowboarder)into the mix and Lance Armstong. . Phelps had the 3rd fastest split out of the 4 guys that won gold on the 4 x 100 relay team.
This topic can get really long and really controversial. I guess it is in 1 persons opinion.
This is the main thought from my point of view:
In 4 or 8 or 12 years there is going to be another Michael Phelps that dominates most of the events. Mark Spitz has been holding this record for over 30 years. No one ever considered him in the most dominating athlete ever.
There will not be another Tiger Woods ever IMO.
Thats the difference.
Also they are on 2 totally different ends of the spectrum. Its like comparing ARod and Nadal. Who is better?
I think Phelps vs Armstrong is ALOT better arguement.
This topic can get really long and really controversial. I guess it is in 1 persons opinion.
This is the main thought from my point of view:
In 4 or 8 or 12 years there is going to be another Michael Phelps that dominates most of the events. Mark Spitz has been holding this record for over 30 years. No one ever considered him in the most dominating athlete ever.
There will not be another Tiger Woods ever IMO.
Thats the difference.
Also they are on 2 totally different ends of the spectrum. Its like comparing ARod and Nadal. Who is better?
I think Phelps vs Armstrong is ALOT better arguement.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 9:23 am
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Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:22 am to BLanoix
Phelps is more dominate because it's A LOT harder to swim and stay dominate in that sport. You'll always have some young gun that'll be ready to knock you off.
It's better to compare Phelps to an Olympic Sprinter or Long Distance Runner as some people suggest Lance Armstrong.
It's better to compare Phelps to an Olympic Sprinter or Long Distance Runner as some people suggest Lance Armstrong.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:27 am to bayou2003
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Phelps is more dominate because it's A LOT harder to swim and stay dominate in that sport. You'll always have some young gun that'll be ready to knock you off.
It's better to compare Phelps to an Olympic Sprinter or Long Distance Runner as some people suggest Lance Armstrong.
Agree with you on comparing to Lance Armstrong. You think its alot harder to swim than play golf professionaly? Are you kidding me?
And to say its harder to stay dominate in the sport? TIGER is going to destroy a record of 18 majors that NO ONE ever thought would be touched. I am not knocking Phelps at all. I think he is awesome and am pulling just as hard as anyone for him to win 8 golds. I just dont think this is a comparison that can be made. Its at 2 totally different ends of the spectrum.
Also, I am not trying to argue this point. It has no answer. It is all in someones opinion.
They are both very GOOD and dominate their individual sport.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 9:31 am
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:30 am to BLanoix
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TIGER is going to destroy a record of 18 majors that NO ONE ever thought would be touched.
But he hasn't... yet.
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I am not knocking Phelps at all. I think he is awesome and am pulling just as hard as anyone for him to win 8 golds. I just dont think this is a comparison that can be made.
Winning 8 golds in an olympics is a record as well... which he's well on his way to doing. Plus after this one won't he have the records for most medals overall?
I would look at it as how good the guy is compared to his competition... and that means Phelps is the most dominant athlete in his sport, right now. Comparing golf to swimming is a bad comparison, but if you must... Phelps wins.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:36 am to MrKennedy
Golf has more variables.....and before Tiger came along the best player in the world might win 3 times a year. Now that Tiger has revolutionized it so much, he makes a mockery of how difficult the sport really is to dominate.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:37 am to BLanoix
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. Phelps had the 3rd fastest split out of the 4 guys that won gold on the 4 x 100 relay team.
do you realize that is actually amazingly impressive? Phelps is NOT a sprinter, and does not swim the 100 meter in indivudual competition yet still is on the premier team in the world in this event. That's like saying Jeremy Wariner a 400 meter specialist in track ran the third fastest split on the US men's 4 x100m relay that shattered the world record by a second, so he sucks.
People are not understanding that swimming is so diverse and different from event to event, and that's what makes this more amazing. This is much more impressive than Spitz b/c swimmers now are much more advanced, all countries have advanced training methods, greater worldwide competition, and there are more specialists that focus on only one event....and Phelps still is dominating.
It is VERY unlikely that anyone will be able to dominate like this anytime soon.
As for there never being anyone else like tiger, why not? guys from the past like Sam Snead, Hogan, Walter Hagan had amaizing runs, and they had legendary rivals. Is tiger the best golfer ever? i think so, but he isn't going out and winning EVERYTHING and setting course records and tournament records virtually every time. Phelps is doing this, with a worldwide spotlight unlike anything Tiger has had to deal with in a single tournament.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:39 am to BLanoix
Idk. If phelps loses its like OMG NO WAY SHOCKER.
If woods loses its like, well cant win em all
If woods loses its like, well cant win em all
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:39 am to MrKennedy
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Winning 8 golds in an olympics is a record as well... which he's well on his way to doing. Plus after this one won't he have the records for most medals overall?
I totally agree with you. Its too hard to compare. If golf was an olympic sport, and you take the best player from each country then Tiger is hands down the favorite to win it. I guess the point I am trying to make it this. Only so many Americans can make the team and get into certain events. Their are Amercian teammates of phelps sitting at home right now that could beat half of the guys in the finals. Its 2 hard to compare these 2 guys in their individual sports.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:41 am to BLanoix
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You think its alot harder to swim than play golf professionaly? Are you kidding me?
yes, there are hundreds of professionals on the PGA tour. to stay on the US swim team and qualify for the olympics you must be in the top 2 in you event at the trials. If there was that kind of pressure on PGA pros, there would be a lot fewer of them.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:41 am to sportsinfogeauxlsu
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Golf has more variables.....and before Tiger came along the best player in the world might win 3 times a year. Now that Tiger has revolutionized it so much, he makes a mockery of how difficult the sport really is to dominate.
Great Point. The margin for error is alot smaller in golf. I think its a dumb topic to even discuss. THEY ARE BOTH frickING AWESOME AND ARE BOTH AMERICANS.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:44 am to BLanoix
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The margin for error is alot smaller in golf.
how???????
golf = 4 rounds over 4 days. You can hit in the water, miss multiple easy puts, slice drives but recover and still win.
Swimming = if you survive the trials you are in the olympics. In the olympics one bad turn or start in a sprint means it's over, you lost. One imperfect stretch at the finish means you lose by .02 seconds.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:47 am to sportsinfogeauxlsu
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before Tiger came along the best player in the world might win 3 times a year
stop making shite up, this just isn't true.
Sam Snead for example had at least half a dozen years where he won 6 or more times, including a year where won or 11 or 12 times. Tiger has never won this many times in a year.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 9:56 am to el tigre
golf is way harder than swimming. in golf, there is a luck affect therefore putting many golfers in contention for 1st place. swimming on the other hand usually has 2-4 swimmers that actually have a chance of winning. a golf tournament is MUCH harder to win than a swimming race.
Tiger > Phelps
Tiger > Phelps
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 9:58 am
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:00 am to STMtiger
but we aren't talking about one swimming race, that's the whole point. We are talking about smashing records and winning everything you swim, in events that are very different and you are beating specialists in these events every time.
That's like tiger winning the majors, plus winning a long drive contest, putting contest, and a chipping contest against people that only specialize and compete in this specific discipline.
That's like tiger winning the majors, plus winning a long drive contest, putting contest, and a chipping contest against people that only specialize and compete in this specific discipline.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:13 am to BLanoix
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You think its alot harder to swim than play golf professionaly? Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me????
Is there a senior swimming league that people can compete in? Does a golfer only have ~10 years to truly be in form to dominate their sport then they're done?
The oringal thread was "who is the more dominant athlete? " which I take to mean within their respective sports, and it would be Phelps hands down.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:16 am to BLanoix
why start another thread about this shite?
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:18 am to SPEEDY
CUZ MY OPINION IS SO IMPORTANT AND WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN LOST IN 9 PAGES OF bullshite, DUH.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:18 am to STMtiger
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golf is way harder than swimming. in golf, there is a luck affect therefore putting many golfers in contention for 1st place. swimming on the other hand usually has 2-4 swimmers that actually have a chance of winning. a golf tournament is MUCH harder to win than a swimming race.
Tiger > Phelps
Wow, congrats on missing the argument completely.
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:20 am to STMtiger
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golf is way harder than swimming. in golf, there is a luck affect therefore putting many golfers in contention for 1st place. swimming on the other hand usually has 2-4 swimmers that actually have a chance of winning. a golf tournament is MUCH harder to win than a swimming race.
Tiger > Phelps
i bet michael phelps is better at golf than craig stadler is at swimming
Posted on 8/12/08 at 10:22 am to Maximus
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i bet michael phelps is better at golf than craig stadler is at swimming
he's the mother fricking walrus!!! no way in hell.
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