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Antrell Rolle....tell me if this makes sense
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:17 pm
he gets moved to FS from CB b/c he's not athletic enough to play CB (and he's a willing tackler)
he also gets moved to punt returner
these 2 don't correlate
he also gets moved to punt returner
these 2 don't correlate
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Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
yes they do
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:37 pm to bayoubengal1119
not being athletic enough to play CB, but being athletic enough to be a PR? naw, not really
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:39 pm to bayoubengal1119
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yes they do
What a clown. Do you even watch football? When's the last time you saw an NFL safety returning punts? I can only think of one college safety off hand and that was Tom Zbikowski.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
They probably don't want to say they moved him because he lacks the instincts to play CB. Because that's what it really was. He was constantly getting himself out of position last year and it had little to do with athleticism.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:54 pm to TheChosenOne
he's not athletic enough to play CB. this was the stigma on him coming out of miami, and his 4.5 confirmed it
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
A CB out of the U that's not athletic enough. Talk about irony.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:01 pm to GoldenBoy
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I can only think of one college safety off hand and that was Tom Zbikowski.
Seriously? Chad Jones.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:03 pm to Charles Bronson
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Seriously? Chad Jones.
Chad Jones SHALL NOT be defined by position. Chad Jones plays Chad, a dynamic new position played by only the greatest.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:08 pm to Charles Bronson
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Seriously? Chad Jones.
he's played CB while at LSU a lot more than he's played S
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What a clown. Do you even watch football? When's the last time you saw an NFL safety returning punts? I can only think of one college safety off hand and that was Tom Zbikowski.
do you really think i was taking that serious
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
A slower 40 doesn't mean he lacks athleticism. It just means he lacks top end speed. Conversely he had a vert close to 40 and quick cone and shuttle times. His biggest knocks coming out were his misreads, poor reaction time and obviously his lack of top end speed. I never once heard athleticism.
His athleticism was enough to be a decent #2 CB, but he constantly put himself out of position to where his speed became a glaring weakness.
His athleticism was enough to be a decent #2 CB, but he constantly put himself out of position to where his speed became a glaring weakness.
This post was edited on 8/7/08 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ehhh...he's really only played in nickel packages, so he hasn't really played strictly safety yet, but there is no mistaking he's a safety.
he's played CB while at LSU a lot more than he's played S
It's not really uncommon for a safety to return punts. Ed Reed? I know there have been more.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
man that IS weird
Posted on 8/8/08 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
He doesn't have the lateral quickness to stay with the top receivers so he was moved to safety. Returning punts isn't all about lateral quickness, it's also about vision, patience, and waiting for your blocks to set up. Rolle also had 3 interception returns for touchdowns in 2007 so he has proven that he's a good return man.
Posted on 8/8/08 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
maybe he;s got sure hands and his lack of top end speed doesn't matter as much on punt returns.
i mean, not being fast enough in the back pedal or not having the hips to play the position . there's a lot of reasons he could have been moved from corner.
i mean, not being fast enough in the back pedal or not having the hips to play the position . there's a lot of reasons he could have been moved from corner.
Posted on 8/8/08 at 10:06 am to LSU Fan 90812
but you need really good hips/speed to be a good returner
pretty much the physical characteristics that make you a good CB make you a good PR, and rolle had to be moved from CB due to lack of these. so i thought it was funny that he was being tried out at PR
pretty much the physical characteristics that make you a good CB make you a good PR, and rolle had to be moved from CB due to lack of these. so i thought it was funny that he was being tried out at PR
Posted on 8/8/08 at 10:14 am to GoldenBoy
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When's the last time you saw an NFL safety returning punts?
Ed Reed
Posted on 8/8/08 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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but you need really good hips/speed to be a good returner
it's not the exact same kinesthetically.
but i was surprised to see him back there myself. Don't understimate the hands part of it. Or even the not afraid of contact part of it.
isn't breaston on the cards? that's what confused me.
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